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Do you like Lost Odyssey?

Yes it's the best console JRPG this gen 28 9.49%
 
Yes, it's one of the better JRPG's 62 21.02%
 
Kinda, but it doesn't stand out 25 8.47%
 
It's Average 21 7.12%
 
Not really 14 4.75%
 
No, I Hate It 14 4.75%
 
I didn't play it because it's one 360 86 29.15%
 
See Results 45 15.25%
 
Total:295
oniyide said:
Darc Requiem said:
Soriku said:
Darc Requiem said:
Soriku said:
Because it's on the 360, and most JRPG fans prefer Sony and Nintendo systems.


Incorrect. Most JRPG "fans" are fanboys. Real fans of the genre, follow the genre. When Lost Odyssey launched on 360, it had the most JRPGs available. I know because I actually looked at the 360 release schedule before it launched. I saw the amount of JRPGs on the docket and bought one. Most JRPG "fans" ran out and bought PS3s and then trolled any JRPG title released on 360. Lost Odyssey included. It really got annoying. You'd go into a thread to discuss the game and there were a bunch of JRPG "fans" complaining about the game not being on PS3. It was pathetic.

Lost Odyssey was and is exceptional. Of course, if you tried to discuss after it's release. You got bombarded by these supposed JRPG fans that hadn't played the game telling you otherwise. These alleged fans also praised the greatnes of FFXIII even though it wasn't out. That was rather ironic given the way things turned out with that game.

Okay, mini-rant over. Sorry guys. Continue on. Maybe we can see a sequel to Lost Odyssey someday. Sakaguchi still has his magic. Lord knows Final Fantasy could use him again.



Honestly you kind of proved my point. Unless you were just saying "incorrect" to the fan/fanboy distinction. However I'm not sure if that's entirely true. Because JRPGs haven't been very common with MS systems, but have with Nintendo and Sony ones, there's going to be a lot of people conditioned to them and only want to buy JRPGs on Nintendo and Sony systems. Sometimes it even extends to specific games -- for example, in Japan, people like playing Tales games on Sony systems more than Nintendo/MS ones. People are just more comfortable and expect certain games on certain platforms because that's what they're used to. Can you call them fanboys for that? I don't know.

 A JRPG fan  would have bought a 360 because lets be honest here, for the bulk of the last generation that's where the console JRPGs were. This wasn't a PSP and DS situation in which you could look at either platform for a JRPG fix. The Wii and PS3 had slim pickings when it came to JRPGs. So if you didn't buy a 360 when it was practically the sole source for JRPGs. Don't claim to be a JRPG fan.


oh please, how much Jrpgs are coming out for 360 this year? how about last year? year before that? Lets not act like 360 dominates that market. They havent in a while if ever, that honor goes to PSP and DS. And like you said yourself if you have either of those (and looking at sales, especially in Japan) alot of people have those. So that where you would get your JRPG fix and frankly a good amonut of those JRPGs ended up getting ported anyway.. I think LO and BD are the only actual exclusives left

The only JRPGs coming to 360 at this point are multiplats. However maybe I was unclear. I was referring to the first half of the generation. The first half of the generation. The PS3 and the Wii had next to know JRPG offerings? You can't honestly tell me that during the first four years of the generation the PS3 and Wii were getting more JRPG content.



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everybode RPG-Fan must play Ni No Kuni for PS3, its amazing. But Lost Odeysee.. i think, its "okay", but not more.



the best RPG's are coming 2013 !!!! oh my god, this is perfect for RPG-GAMER = ) Ni No Kuni - 25 january, Time and Eternity, tales of xillia (PS3) and the maybe best game ever: metal gear solid ground zero


Darc Requiem said:
oniyide said:
Darc Requiem said:
Soriku said:
Darc Requiem said:
Soriku said:
Because it's on the 360, and most JRPG fans prefer Sony and Nintendo systems.


Incorrect. Most JRPG "fans" are fanboys. Real fans of the genre, follow the genre. When Lost Odyssey launched on 360, it had the most JRPGs available. I know because I actually looked at the 360 release schedule before it launched. I saw the amount of JRPGs on the docket and bought one. Most JRPG "fans" ran out and bought PS3s and then trolled any JRPG title released on 360. Lost Odyssey included. It really got annoying. You'd go into a thread to discuss the game and there were a bunch of JRPG "fans" complaining about the game not being on PS3. It was pathetic.

Lost Odyssey was and is exceptional. Of course, if you tried to discuss after it's release. You got bombarded by these supposed JRPG fans that hadn't played the game telling you otherwise. These alleged fans also praised the greatnes of FFXIII even though it wasn't out. That was rather ironic given the way things turned out with that game.

Okay, mini-rant over. Sorry guys. Continue on. Maybe we can see a sequel to Lost Odyssey someday. Sakaguchi still has his magic. Lord knows Final Fantasy could use him again.



Honestly you kind of proved my point. Unless you were just saying "incorrect" to the fan/fanboy distinction. However I'm not sure if that's entirely true. Because JRPGs haven't been very common with MS systems, but have with Nintendo and Sony ones, there's going to be a lot of people conditioned to them and only want to buy JRPGs on Nintendo and Sony systems. Sometimes it even extends to specific games -- for example, in Japan, people like playing Tales games on Sony systems more than Nintendo/MS ones. People are just more comfortable and expect certain games on certain platforms because that's what they're used to. Can you call them fanboys for that? I don't know.

 A JRPG fan  would have bought a 360 because lets be honest here, for the bulk of the last generation that's where the console JRPGs were. This wasn't a PSP and DS situation in which you could look at either platform for a JRPG fix. The Wii and PS3 had slim pickings when it came to JRPGs. So if you didn't buy a 360 when it was practically the sole source for JRPGs. Don't claim to be a JRPG fan.


oh please, how much Jrpgs are coming out for 360 this year? how about last year? year before that? Lets not act like 360 dominates that market. They havent in a while if ever, that honor goes to PSP and DS. And like you said yourself if you have either of those (and looking at sales, especially in Japan) alot of people have those. So that where you would get your JRPG fix and frankly a good amonut of those JRPGs ended up getting ported anyway.. I think LO and BD are the only actual exclusives left

The only JRPGs coming to 360 at this point are multiplats. However maybe I was unclear. I was referring to the first half of the generation. The first half of the generation. The PS3 and the Wii had next to know JRPG offerings? You can't honestly tell me that during the first four years of the generation the PS3 and Wii were getting more JRPG content.


I really wouldnt know or honestly i didnt care. because I didnt own one of the HDs are even the WIi in the first few years, im more of a present guy now, thats alll well and good. but who cares what happened that long ago? How much JRPGs are released for the system now? All i see are exclusive PS3 ones and FF13-3 which is multiplat. 

For argument ill say you're right, but when its all said and done. Can anyone honestly say that 360 dominated the pS3 adn WIi in the JRPG genre the ENTIRE gen, very few people are going to single out just a couple of years. 



When its all said and done. Its a 'what have you done for me lately'? mentality. LO was released in 08? its 2013 now.



Unfortunately fanboys would rather follow hardware and bitch about the lack of software. As such one of the best JRPGs of the generation will likely never see a sequel. As with The Last Story, Mistwalker was only the developer of the game. The IP belongs to the hardware manufacturer. Nintendo owns the The Last Story and Microsoft owns Lost Odyssey.



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I would, if only the 3 copies I bought didn't give me DRE's.



Darc Requiem said:

Unfortunately fanboys would rather follow hardware and bitch about the lack of software. As such one of the best JRPGs of the generation will likely never see a sequel. As with The Last Story, Mistwalker was only the developer of the game. The IP belongs to the hardware manufacturer. Nintendo owns the The Last Story and Microsoft owns Lost Odyssey.

Your preaching to the choir. MS tried to secure JRPGs early on in hopes of getting the Japanese demographic. It was a good plan, they just were not buying it. Thats all their really is too it, and its not like Americans are that big into the genre anymore either. Not in the way they were in PS1 days and alot of people probably believe that Wii and/or PS3 would get JRPGs so in a way you are kind of wrong as they did follow hardware and they ARE gettign software. PS3 has been getting hooked up for years. And as ive stated the more important titles ended  up getting ported anyway . Theres about 6 JRPGS being released this year alone and only one of them is multiplat.



Oniyide, Americans were never really into JRPGs to begin with. Final Fantasy was the only franchise that was a big seller. Thanks to Sony's heavy promotion of FFVII, other developers started localizing JRPGs. They didn't put the ad dollars behind their franchises that Sony did with FFVII and they didn't see the same result. So the genre never really got a foothold.

As for people buying PS3's and Wii's assuming they'd get JRPG support, that's stupidly foolish especially given the PS3's launch price, but I could see that being the case because of the PS2. At least initially. However I've owned every Nintendo home console. The last Nintendo home console with good JRPG support was the SNES. The N64 had nothing and the Gamecube only got a handful JRPGs.



Darc Requiem said:
Soriku said:
Because it's on the 360, and most JRPG fans prefer Sony and Nintendo systems.


Incorrect. Most JRPG "fans" are fanboys. Real fans of the genre, follow the genre. When Lost Odyssey launched on 360, it had the most JRPGs available. I know because I actually looked at the 360 release schedule before it launched. I saw the amount of JRPGs on the docket and bought one. Most JRPG "fans" ran out and bought PS3s and then trolled any JRPG title released on 360. Lost Odyssey included. It really got annoying. You'd go into a thread to discuss the game and there were a bunch of JRPG "fans" complaining about the game not being on PS3. It was pathetic.

Lost Odyssey was and is exceptional. Of course, if you tried to discuss after it's release. You got bombarded by these supposed JRPG fans that hadn't played the game telling you otherwise. These alleged fans also praised the greatnes of FFXIII even though it wasn't out. That was rather ironic given the way things turned out with that game.

Okay, mini-rant over. Sorry guys. Continue on. Maybe we can see a sequel to Lost Odyssey someday. Sakaguchi still has his magic. Lord knows Final Fantasy could use him again.


I was one of the people that bought a 360 ONLY for the JRPG support it's getting.  I could give two shits about shooters no matter how amazing they are and most Western RPGs are multiplat / PC.  When LO came out along with ToV, I even made a thread about how the 360 was so far my favorite console this generation because it supported my favorite genre.

 

What made me and many other jRPG fans (that didn't like shooters) angry was MS dropping support overnight and giving them the finger after buying a $300-480 console that it cost back then.  I was, for one, really looking forward to Cry On, but I guess MW didn't turn Japan around like they expected.  But I still think they should have gone through making that game not to piss off so many fans since it was on the roster before cutting off Mistwalker. 

 

In the 2nd half of the generation, Sony and Nintendo has been where jRPGs have resided - and not MS.  For that, I dont have any reason to get MS's next console.  If there is an exclusive JRPG, I'll just borrow someone's since I'm sure every American and their grandmother will get a 720.

 

As for Lost Odyssey, I do consider it the "real" FF 13 this generation.  Besides the loading times and a few technical issues, I really found it to be an enjoyable game.  I didn't mind all the reading - because at one time you did have to read alot as a jRPG fan.  Now we are in the "shoot everything and anyone that twitches" generation - so I can see why people don't want to read in games.



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Darc Requiem said:

Unfortunately fanboys would rather follow hardware and bitch about the lack of software. As such one of the best JRPGs of the generation will likely never see a sequel. As with The Last Story, Mistwalker was only the developer of the game. The IP belongs to the hardware manufacturer. Nintendo owns the The Last Story and Microsoft owns Lost Odyssey.


hmm

 

Why sit here and be mad at the JRPG fans? Be mad at the devs for putting their fish food in a tank where there is no fish to consume it.

 

Edit: idk

if i didn't know any better, i would think that this is just another case of "oh lets blame teh PlayStation fans"

That's what it pretty much seems like you are trying to do. The 360 got all these JRPGs which didn't really sell and now you're sitting here trying to blame PlayStation fans for it? WTF

 

i'm hoping i'm wrong though