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"3x the processing speed of the current 360"


Makes no sense. Unless everything we heard about the Hardware is not true. No Bluray would be a mistake even if they use a 50gb proprietary format instead.



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Unless he means no BR for games. Maybe a derivitive of HD-DVD instead.



Why are all the xbox rumors filled with seemingly stupid design choices? Once more I find myself doubting the validity of all this, the specs might be close to truth but the functionality and other issues seem way off.
Using their own format instead of an industry standard seems pretty silly, especially if they want the whole "living room entertainment box" business model to be viable.
Its too early by far to go digital only so they need a physical format, resurrecting the HD-DVD would be folly and flash or other similar formats aren't at all viable alternatives as far as production costs and materials are concerned.



End of 2016 hardware sales:

Wii U: 15 million. PS4: 54 million. One: 30 million. 3DS: 64.8 million. PSVita: 15.2 million.

Mummelmann said:
Why are all the xbox rumors filled with seemingly stupid design choices? Once more I find myself doubting the validity of all this, the specs might be close to truth but the functionality and other issues seem way off.
Using their own format instead of an industry standard seems pretty silly, especially if they want the whole "living room entertainment box" business model to be viable.
Its too early by far to go digital only so they need a physical format, resurrecting the HD-DVD would be folly and flash or other similar formats aren't at all viable alternatives as far as production costs and materials are concerned.


HD-DVD need only be used for games. BR would still be there for movies. The advantage of HD-DVD is it has already been done. There are little to no R&D costs and few PC based drives that can even read, let alone write it so piracy 'should' be even harder than BR alone.



If it doesn't use bluray, then expect all games to be downloaded.
If neither, then it is doa as dvds simply can't store nest gen games on them.



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I don't really see them using anything else than blu-ray.
Drives are plentiful with so many suppliers it would be cheap. Microsoft can negotiate with the suppliers for better prices.
Which manufacturers still makes HD-DvDs?
If they make their own format its gonna be expensive.



TheJimbo1234 said:
If it doesn't use bluray, then expect all games to be downloaded.
If neither, then it is doa as dvds simply can't store nest gen games on them.


Computers seem to do fine without blu ray, I am sure the next box can too.



thranx said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
If it doesn't use bluray, then expect all games to be downloaded.
If neither, then it is doa as dvds simply can't store nest gen games on them.


Computers seem to do fine without blu ray, I am sure the next box can too.


Not at all because they work very differently.

Computers instal the data rather than running it off the disc, thus compression can be huge, and you only need the engine on one disc, not all of them.  Also a lot of PC exlcusive titles are starting to take up vast amounts of memory eg. Napolean TW is ~25GB in size.

Consoles can't do this as they need the engine on every disc, so if you had a game which was 17GB of data, this would not be on two discs, but most likely 3 or 4 as the engine and vast amounts of data would have to be compied onto each disc.

So as I said, if not major cloud support or bluray, it's doa/not next gen.



TheJimbo1234 said:
thranx said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
If it doesn't use bluray, then expect all games to be downloaded.
If neither, then it is doa as dvds simply can't store nest gen games on them.


Computers seem to do fine without blu ray, I am sure the next box can too.


Not at all because they work very differently.

Computers instal the data rather than running it off the disc, thus compression can be huge, and you only need the engine on one disc, not all of them.  Also a lot of PC exlcusive titles are starting to take up vast amounts of memory eg. Napolean TW is ~25GB in size.

Consoles can't do this as they need the engine on every disc, so if you had a game which was 17GB of data, this would not be on two discs, but most likely 3 or 4 as the engine and vast amounts of data would have to be compied onto each disc.

So as I said, if not major cloud support or bluray, it's doa/not next gen.

Or they could simple have a proprietary format like the Wii U which isn't bluray and can hold 25 GB (which is probably enough for next gen games, with some very few exceptions that may require 2 CDs).



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spurgeonryan said:
  • It will not include Blu-Ray

 

 


I don't think they will do that.
BluRay is a musthave for NextGen consoles.We enter a NATIVE 1080p Generation.
Upscaling from 576p isn't really a good way to go and Microsoft won't do that and 3rd Party won't support that.
DvD wouldn't be able to hold the amount of data for NATIVE 1080p Retail Games.