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hopefully M$ will do it

it doesn't really matter though because the next Xbox is going to get outsold by the PS4 next gen if they launch at the same price



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Has it been confirmed by ms to be gddr3? Or is it still rumor?



The won't. It'll increase the price of the console to much. The most powerful could sole has never come first in a generation. Hopefully they've learnt from the ps3.



Couldn't third party game developers just tell MS that their console will be less powerful than the PS4? I mean, game developers would want both consoles to be equally powerful.



    

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Soundwave said:

 

Seems like Sony gave MS a big heads up on their console by dropping the 8GB GDDR5 RAM thing. Dollars to donughts that MS will now be under pressure to match and they have time now to react.

Sony should've kept that quiet until E3 or even afterwards to the point where MS couldn't have possibly changed their spec.


RAM specs are not as important as they were five years ago. If Sony really use GDDR5 RAM it is a waste of money.



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MoHasanie said:
Couldn't third party game developers just tell MS that their console will be less powerful than the PS4? I mean, game developers would want both consoles to be equally powerful.

The power difference between PS4 and Xbox3 is non-relevant. On the paper the PS3 has more power than Xbox360, but most multi-games looks only as good or better on Xbox360.

The power difference between Wii U and PS4 seems to be not that big too, even the difference between PS3 and PS4 is not that big.



Soleron said:
Design for both consoles was fixed a LONG time ago. Two years or more. It isn't something that can be swapped out, validated, and put into mass production in six months.

Secondly, when has a single spec ever decided the fate of a console?

and with that said, games have already been optimized for each console, so any changes now...........just read what soleron said.

secondly. never. not to mention, the most powerful console, has never won the war. things look to change on that front.



I'm pretty sure if Microsoft made any sudden changes to their current design for the next box, it would delay any announcement they could probably planned for this year. To think they can simply make changes to years and years of development over night is silly.



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Microsoft, according to rumours, designed the next box to use 8gigs of DDR3. Microsoft knew it would be too slow so they engineered this "move engine" to transfer data between the mobo faster and added 32megs of esram for high bandwidth. Essentially they crated the console to feed their 32megs of esram as fast as possible to make up for the lack of speed, like adding some N02 boosters to a honda civic so to speak. Whether this works out or not remains to be seen. Again, according to rumours, but that document detailing the move engine seems pretty legit.

Edit:  Microsoft designed the console to try to give you GDDR5 speeds with trickeries, no idea if it'll work or not.  If these rumours are true, MS can't make the changes in time for a release.  They'd either have to delay the console a good year or more to make that change.  They'll just stick with their guns.



Soundwave said:

 

Seems like Sony gave MS a big heads up on their console by dropping the 8GB GDDR5 RAM thing. Dollars to donughts that MS will now be under pressure to match and they have time now to react.

Sony should've kept that quiet until E3 or even afterwards to the point where MS couldn't have possibly changed their spec.

MS (judging by the rumours) made a workaround with Esram and Move Engines, do you really think they will just switch to 8GD GDDR5 now after implementing these tools to be able to use cheap DDR3 ?