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Nem said:
tonymarraffa said:
Nem said:

I think its likely they will release it on Xbox live and PSN, maybe Nintendo network aswell.
SEGA has been releasing several Saturn and Dreamcast classics on there (in HD). I am hoping they will eventually get to the shenmue's, Panzer dragoons saga's and Shining force 3's. Well maybe not shining force as it requires localisation if they do more than disc 1 (though its already been made by fans), but the other 2 have to find their way somehow.


Actually all three volumes were translated.


By fans? Yes. By SEGA? I dunno. Were they?


By fans yes but if Sega was smart they'd just use those easy money.



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tonymarraffa said:
Nem said:
tonymarraffa said:
Nem said:

I think its likely they will release it on Xbox live and PSN, maybe Nintendo network aswell.
SEGA has been releasing several Saturn and Dreamcast classics on there (in HD). I am hoping they will eventually get to the shenmue's, Panzer dragoons saga's and Shining force 3's. Well maybe not shining force as it requires localisation if they do more than disc 1 (though its already been made by fans), but the other 2 have to find their way somehow.


Actually all three volumes were translated.


By fans? Yes. By SEGA? I dunno. Were they?


By fans yes but if Sega was smart they'd just use those easy money.


That was my point. ^^

Either way the game is not that text heavy that it would require a huge budget to localise to english. If you ask me, easy peasy, if you ask SEGA, they probably will frown. Meh...



Galvanizer said:
Player2 said:
Galvanizer said:
Darc Requiem said:
Galvanizer said:
I'm pretty sure SEGA could have sold at least 1 million worldwide if they had done it. They didn't even need to add motion controls. They could have just let it use the Classic controller or GameCube controller.


You do realize that SEGA has to be the worst managed gaming company not to go bankrupt. It's a miracle they are still in business. At one point, they arguably the best game developer in the world and they still couldn't make any money. Why? Their management has always been terrible.



You raise a good point. Come to think of it, I can't think of a single critically acclaimed AAA game from SEGA this gen. There was Bayonetta and Vanquish but they were both made by Platinum Games.

Valkyria Chronicles



True. However, they then went on to move the series to PSP.

Turkish said:
Galvanizer said:
Darc Requiem said:
Galvanizer said:
I'm pretty sure SEGA could have sold at least 1 million worldwide if they had done it. They didn't even need to add motion controls. They could have just let it use the Classic controller or GameCube controller.


You do realize that SEGA has to be the worst managed gaming company not to go bankrupt. It's a miracle they are still in business. At one point, they arguably the best game developer in the world and they still couldn't make any money. Why? Their management has always been terrible.



You raise a good point. Come to think of it, I can't think of a single critically acclaimed AAA game from SEGA this gen. There was Bayonetta and Vanquish but they were both made by Platinum Games.


Yakuza 3 and 4???



None of those games have achieved a Metascore over 80.


Metascores don't mean a lot, the games are mad fun.



AkiraGr said:
Turkish said:
AkiraGr said:

Turkish said:
They'd release it on PS360 before the Wii, there is a very small audience for Shenmue on Wii.

Yes you have a point....(looking at xbox shemue 2 sales).... No you don't. But Turkish is the name trolling is the game.


That would be funny, if only you made sense. According to VGC Xbox version has sold twice as much as the DC version.

Do your homework before replying to me and stop wasting my time with boring hit&run comments.

Shenmue

Shenmue on the Dreamcast is more notorious for its overambitious budget than its poor sales figures. At the time of release in 1999, the game had the record for the most expensive production costs (over US$70 million),[90] and its five-year production time. In comparison, the games' total sale was 1.2 million copies.[91] Shenmue, however, was a critical hit, earning an average review score of 89%.[92] The game was supposed to be the initial installment of a trilogy. The second installment was eventually released in 2001, but by this time the Dreamcast was floundering, so the game only saw a release in Japan and Europe. Sega eventually released it for American audiences for the Xbox, but the poor performance of both titles combined with restructuring have made Sega reluctant to complete the trilogy for fear of failure to return on the investment.[93]

Considering the high production costs, Shenmue experienced disappointing sales. According to IGN, the game, which cost an unprecedented $70 million to make,[40] would have had to be purchased twice by every single Dreamcast owner in order for Sega to turn a profit. The $70 million investment presumably included the budget for the resources for additional sequels. The Sega Saturn version included the plot of both the first and second games at the very least, and although the full extent may never be known, a significant portion of the budget quoted for Shenmue was used on resources for future chapters, and the characters, plot and environments/gameplay of at least the entire second game existed in rough form before the first game was released.[6][41] The game was the 4th best selling title on the Dreamcast and one of the six titles to sell over a million units worldwide.[42] Shenmue is consistently listed as one of several key Dreamcast titles (most of them Sega productions) that ensured the console enjoyed solid sales during the Christmas season of 2000.[citation needed]

At the Game Developer's Conference in 2011 Yu Suzuki stated that the $70 million cost for the development of Shenmue was actually an embellishment and that it only cost $47 million to develop and market.[43]

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but again if this is not enough the game released on dreamcast and sold more that a million units the second follow the same trend but after sega failure on the dreamcast they did not publish the game on North America and Microsoft publish it as an Xbox Exclusive on America. The sales were so bad that they did not publish the game on Japan on their console.

2 Shenmue II XB 2002 Adventure Microsoft Game Studios 0.22 0.08 0.00 0.01 0.32
3 Shenmue II DC 2001 Adventure Sega 0.00 0.00 0.15 0.00 0.15

this numbers do not include the dreamcast sales on PAL territories which were the most on the Shenmue franchise plus the American imports influated the numbers by thousands.

So am I well informed or should I go back to re educate myself on the Shenmue case. Ok now go back to your cave.



You really didn't need to copypaste the wikipedia article as it has not useful information on the topic at hand. The numbers are infront of your eyes, believe them or not, but stop wasting my time.



It could have sold 1-1.5m
They lose



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They never ported it to PS360. Don't see why they would release it for Wii.



Better question is why weren't they released for Gamecube and PS2 when Sega went 3rd party, porting the second to XBOX made no sense



melbye said:
Better question is why weren't they released for Gamecube and PS2 when Sega went 3rd party, porting the second to XBOX made no sense


Microsoft paid for exclusivity in North America. That's why the game wasn't brought to the Dreamcast in North America even though it had been localized.