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HappySqurriel said:
I think a lot of people who are currently critical of the Wii U may end up eating crow in the long run ...

Sony is not in the financial shape to produce the kind of console people are expecting and sell it at the price people want. Sony will (most likely) need to produce a system and sell it for a price where it breaks even. This means that building a "PS2" would result in a system that was priced at $400 to $450 (more with a hard-drive), and building a "PS3" would result in a system that was over $800. If they have any fancy components (tablet controller or 3D camera) it will also increase the price of the console. Ultimately, for Sony to stay at a reasonable price (below $400) it will likely translate into fairly modest performance.

Microsoft is in a different but similar position. As a company they're highly profitable, but they took massive losses on the XBox line of products for 8 years before they started turning a profit, and investors were not happy with this. Microsoft realistically can not afford to take another $4 Billion loss to launch a console without having investors screaming for blood, so their losses will be far more modest; and it will have to be recovered by XBox 360 profits and next generation game sales. While Microsoft has more flexability that Sony on price, expect a modest system especially if they bundle Kinect with it.

Now I could be wrong (I don't have a crystal ball after all) and Sony or Microsoft could favour a premium system sold at a high price, or they could gamble with large losses, but I'm doubtful they would take either strategy in the current environment.


One thing Nintendo critics need to remember.  Nintendo manages itself for the LONG TERM.  Almost all of the net losses for the last quarter and about 75% of the losses the quarter before that stemmed from foreign currency appraisal losses.  As a company it has about $10 billion USD/Euro in cash parked overseas and only brought back for paying bills.  Nintendo took the yen appreciation in strides, no panic, no structural changes, and as yen starts falling again, that will add $70-$100 million USD in profits on top of now a profitable 3DS, and already breaking even Wii U (assuming 2-2.4 attach rate).  What does this mean? It means Nintendo is rounding into shape for this next business cycle.

Not everyone here is willing to call Wii U "nextgen" but it is Nintendo's console for their new cycle.  3DS invited quick criticisms, just not having duo analog sticks alone had Nintendo Doomed!  Wii U is pretty much playing by the books, and again, look at Europe, Nintendo is doomed!

Nintendo is simply in too strong a financial situation and with now positive product development cycle in handheld and soon to be home console.  Expect great things coming out of the house that mario built!



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Is it next gen? Well right now it has one game that is next gen, in ZombiU. The rest of the games could easily be done on PS3 Xbox360.

Right now no one is really using the gamepad well, other than Ubi with ZombiU. I think if more uses can be found for the gamepad that actually benefit gameplay, then yes the Wii U will be next gen.

I think Miiverse is next gen, and is something different and unique.

In short, some parts of it are next gen, and some parts aren't. I haven't seen anything that really shows off it's potential.




Seeing as how we have yet to see anything from Nintendo besides a 2d Mario and a collection of tech demos turned into a pack in game, the potential for the system is tremendous. If Nintendo has not truly impressed us with one title by next Christmas, I will be extremely concerned. I anticipate Lego to be a huge success at showcasing the controller above and beyond what we saw in Zombie U. I expect a big announcement or two before E3 even gets here. Maybe I am overly optimistic or maybe we will see the U ramp up in quality like the ps3 did but a bit faster.



Mensrea said:
Is it next gen? Well right now it has one game that is next gen, in ZombiU. The rest of the games could easily be done on PS3 Xbox360.

Right now no one is really using the gamepad well, other than Ubi with ZombiU. I think if more uses can be found for the gamepad that actually benefit gameplay, then yes the Wii U will be next gen.

I think Miiverse is next gen, and is something different and unique.

In short, some parts of it are next gen, and some parts aren't. I haven't seen anything that really shows off it's potenti

Really enjoy Zombi U, but my kids are hogging the system to play Scribblenauts, Super Mario U and Nintendoland.  I dont play games often now, but I sometimes turn on Miiverse just to see them shuffle around and also catch some really amazing artwork from some players.  If kids serve as a good indication, Lego City Undercover seems to be high on their list.  Nintendoland also got them interested in Pikmin.

The Gamepad is under rated.  Google maps might be a surprising hit.  My wife wants me to "tour" the streets before we book hotels once it comes out.



According to some 'core' gamers (whatever the hell that means), the WiiU is the only system ever to be released with 100% of its potential realized at launch. "That's it, people! What you see on launch day is it!" This 'logic' is based largely on quick ports of games from older, CPU-centric consoles (even though most of those ports are actually pretty good). I think it has very big potential.



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Sounds like PS3 The Early Years, before it began to outsell both competitors. Potential, it needs more time, give it more time. PS3 actually DID become the #1 seller, currently is. I don't know how likely that is in regards to the wiiu.