Well the latest Pikmin 3 footage easily does things the current gen HD twins arent able to do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAiielCzc3o&list=LL_vYzDYBOnlBRrj_wgesWlg

Like the water-effects when the crabs walks out of the water. The dynamic lighting at 2:02 and the sharp shadows on the leaves and lens flare effects. Sometimes I feel third party developers don't WANT get the best out of Nintendo hardware because they think standard gamers don't really 'notice' this kind of superior effects and don't know how many hardware power this actually requires. Instead they work extremely hard on only the textures... But textures aren't everything.

I think a lot of people who are currently critical of the Wii U may end up eating crow in the long run ...

Sony is not in the financial shape to produce the kind of console people are expecting and sell it at the price people want. Sony will (most likely) need to produce a system and sell it for a price where it breaks even. This means that building a "PS2" would result in a system that was priced at $400 to $450 (more with a hard-drive), and building a "PS3" would result in a system that was over $800. If they have any fancy components (tablet controller or 3D camera) it will also increase the price of the console. Ultimately, for Sony to stay at a reasonable price (below $400) it will likely translate into fairly modest performance.

Microsoft is in a different but similar position. As a company they're highly profitable, but they took massive losses on the XBox line of products for 8 years before they started turning a profit, and investors were not happy with this. Microsoft realistically can not afford to take another $4 Billion loss to launch a console without having investors screaming for blood, so their losses will be far more modest; and it will have to be recovered by XBox 360 profits and next generation game sales. While Microsoft has more flexability that Sony on price, expect a modest system especially if they bundle Kinect with it.

Now I could be wrong (I don't have a crystal ball after all) and Sony or Microsoft could favour a premium system sold at a high price, or they could gamble with large losses, but I'm doubtful they would take either strategy in the current environment.

How dare you use logic on a gaming forum?? On a side note, I agree with your assessment.

Next Gen? Sure. It's a new system that will be Nintendo's focus for the next 5 years or so. It brings improved tech, a slick new touch interface and great OS advancements. The OS and touch screen make navigating my XBox feel very dated, not unlike the Xbox made Wii feel. No going back for me. As far as the system potential, I think it will be huge. The early launch date, Nintendo software, a low price and the lack of tangible improvements that the greater processing power of its competitors will provide will make it the market leader. There will be a market for other systems too, bit WiiU will provide the best option for most households.

But its slower from what I hear. Look at how slow loading between apps is...

That's clearly not enough processing power, Nintendo could learn some things from Sega.

I don't think the slow OS is because of lack of processing power or slow memory ...

My guess (at the moment) is that Nintendo requires all apps to be digitally signed with a massive key to protect against piracy, and to decrypt these apps is taking a really long time. I don't have any proof of this, but I suspect that Nintendo had to create their own custom variation of an encryption scheme that supports 2048 or 4096 bit encryption, and their decryption algorithm isn't that highly optimized atm.

People need to read scholar articles about GPGPU architecture and programing. After that you will understand why ports from other games look bad, and why Wii U is next gen. If, and only if next PlayStation uses GPGPU  (XboX does not matter), then you will see why is next gen. 

Not only that but it uses Gddr5 ram, witch is much better than gddr3 ram. Also the Wii U's GPGPU is better than the xbox360's and ps3's gpu by a longshot. Plus the gpgpu will make up for the baad cpu.

I don't either.I think its just an optimization issue.