The only reason I posted in this thread to begin with is because of the stupid comments posted on here. Bush was not responsible for 9/11, Clinton was because of his lack of balls to go after Bin Laden. Hell Bin Laden had already bombed the World Trade Center once during Clinton's term I believe, but no action was taken. I agree that at the end of a President's term that the economy tends to slide back a bit. It happened with Clinton, and Bush helped us with tax cuts. You can hate Bush all you want, but we are fighting overseas right now and that is better than here in the U.S. The surge is working in Iraq even if the Liberal media doesn't cover it. The only problem that I have with the Democrats is that they are so left wing. Obama seems like a nice guy that I'd like to sit down and have a beer with, but his policies and view on national security scare me. Socialized healthcare for everyone would not be a good thing for this country. The quality of care will go down.

Feel free to attack me for what I believe, but Bush is not the bad guy. But if Obama is the Democratic nominee he will be President. He is too likeable. If Clinton is the nominee just imagine the fun the Republicans are going to have. Have a good night fellas.

I agree with you completely about Obama and Hillary.  Independents and even some Republicans will run to Obama if he's the nominee, if it's Clinton then Republicans will be coming out of the woodwork all over the place trying to keep her out of the White House.

I disagree that Clinton is responsible for 9/11, because he did try to go after Bin Laden, whereas Bush did not before the attacks (and we went into Iraq instead of pursuing Bin Laden after the attacks).  The "liberal" media not covering the surge?  All I've heard out of CNN, NBC, ABC, Fox, etc. is "the surge is working, the surge is working, the surge is working!"  In the debates, the question on Iraq is "the surge is working, where do we go from here?"

Anyway, it's not my intent to attack you, but rather to respond to your original attacks.  Clinton and Obama apologizing to terrorists for being so mean to them?  And you're complaining about being attacked?  Please.

What? George Bush kicks ass!

 Cause Dick Cheney would be a better president?  It was better when we had four to six candidates and whoever got first was president, and whoever got second was vice president.  That way if the president does something illegal the party actually pays instead of getting a different member in.

Personally i favor runoff elections instead of primaries myself.  That way things are less influenced by each individual party, and more so by the general populus.

I won't say that I hate Bush. I just wish that he wasn't the president and I cannot wait for his term to end, hopefully without getting us into another war or messing up the country more then he has so far. And you claim that Bush turned around the situation in Iraq? HE CREATED THE SITUATION IN IRAQ.

Have you forgotten about terror attacks that happened in Spain or those that were thrwarted throughout Europe?  Terrorism doesn't just target the US, they target all of those who think differently of themselves and it doesn't matter who it is.

I can't blame the "recession" (not quite there yet, but it's coming and the stock market will be having a major "correction) on Bush directly.  But you have to admit that with his reckless spending on military and wars is harming the future of the United States.  Had there been some prudent spending in his economic plans to cut costs (which can be done) they would be much better off.

If there is a terrorist determined to attack or suicide bomb a city or place, it will be tough to stop them if they are intelligent.  The best we can do is to use our intelligence agencies to help prevent them as they arise and hopefully stop them before they can carry it out.  No matter how hard we go after terrorists we will just assist them into recruiting new members due to homes/families/lives destroyed by killing or torturing and harrassing good citizens of other countries.  Sometimes, the best defense against a terrorist is a good defense and not a strong offense. 

That said, I didn't vote for Bush either time, and it's questionable if he truly won outright in both elections as there was quite a bit of controversy in the elections.   I fear a Bush presidency more then I would a Hillary presidency.  But, I would prefer someone like Ron Paul or Obama over Hillary.

 Lol. Amusingly enough, the last time we had this system (which was removed by the 12th amendment) our vice president of the time Aaron Burr shot and killed Alexander Hamilton, a founding father. Not to mention the scandal that took place in 1800 when both Jefferson and Aaron Burr received the same number of votes. Not neccesarily disagreeing with you, just thought it was interesting that somebody brought it up.