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Kasz216 said:
the2real4mafol said:
Kasz216 said:

Once again, your somewhat misinformed.  A Majority of UK citizens supported Military action.  Mass disaproval now only exists because the war sucked.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/events/public_opinion_about_the_afghan_war_changes

Really, in general europe.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2001/1007/19430-worldreax/  ~this is about the leaders of each country, it doesn't mean ordinary people supported it

 

If people are going to hate America for their countries joining in on something the majority of said country wanted to do... well ok then.  That's pretty much just how people work, critisize then hate those who made the decision when they turn out wrong, even though they supported it at the time.

 

It's like how Democrats are pissed about the bailout of Wallstreet even though they were the ones who bailed out wallstreet.  Or how Republicans are pissed off about the NSA scandal and wiretaps of reproterse even though THEY were the ones who pushed hardest for FISA.


"Lets hate the guy who did what we wanted him to, it's easier then having to admit we were wrong!"  Is the general rallying cry of the public and regular people.

I don't know about Afghanistan, but people really were against going to Iraq. Maybe those who were for it just remained quiet but many didn't want war and why would they? Personally, i think both wars were a huge waste of time and money achieving little good and also started on false beliefs. Iraq started on bogus accusations of nuclear weapon posession, none were ever found because it was bullshit to start with. Afghanistan, really started on 9/11 despite the fact the country had nothing to do with it. Just shows how ignorant bush was to go there, knowing the British empire in the 1840's and the Soviet Union in the 1980's lost there.

This just shows how popular Iraq intervention was~http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/15/iraq-war-mass-protest. This hardly shows people wanted it and so is not comparable to Wall Street. 

But anyway, you would think people would be against any war by now with all the devastating conflict over the years, some may never learn. Especially, when they weren't justified like the last two wars. War should only happen when your own borders are threatened. 


I actually missed Iraq in there earlier.   No, people in the UK supproted the Iraq war at first too. 

http://www.ipsos-mori.com/newsevents/ca/180/Iraq-Public-Support-Maintained-8212-The-State-Of-Public-Opinion-On-The-War.aspx

Considering they don't cite the poll at all not even being able to give it a name!   They probably are just misremembering it.  Since you can see multiple polls show otherwise.

To claim otherwise, that most people were against it only does a great disservice to those smart enough to be against it in the first place.  As someone who was against the wars in the first place, the backtracking condemnations annoy me greatly.  It's why people never do learn, and why we keep invading other countries for little tangible gain.

That poll really shows the UK was massively split over going to Iraq more than anything, even though a small majority supported it. It still got one of the largest protests in London against it. But i agree with that last point. Although, when it first happened i was too young to understand what was happening there, i was against it when i realised what was happened. 



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