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.. WiiU is on a 10 year plan.. nintendo has yet to announce this..



 

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digitalnasties said:

So you think that the 25,000 cosoles available in the UK would sell a Million games do you!


Where you get that number from? Word is it sold 40k, last week lego lord of the rings came in at number 10 with 22k units sold. No game has it sell a million units to crack the UK top ten lol.



This is an absolutely silly story. 40K units sold. A 75% attach rate for say...NintendoLand = 30k units sold, maximum. That would be very low for a top-10 game this time of year....so naturally it comes in at 11. It's impossible for WiiU games to compete, sales-wise, with games on established systems.



pezus said:
bananaking21 said:
Roma said:
bananaking21 said:
weird considering the numbers the WiiU games did in the US

didn't the WiiU have a full week over there?

yeah but the numbers were very strong, over 350k for both nintendo land and mario bros. with zombiU doing 100k. even if it had 2 days i thought that the games would have done better

Keep in mind that those numbers were in no way official. It might even be off, we'll see with NPD


true. vgchartz have been somewhat crappy in tracking these past couple of weeks



think-man said:

No Wii U title was able to crack the top 10 in its first weekend on sales, according to GfK Chart-Track.

This article is a beat-up. That is, they're trying to create a story where none exists.

GfK's charts don't specify the platform from which a game comes from - the Black Ops II listing includes all versions of BO2, including the Wii U version. Same with FIFA (in 3rd), Assassin's Creed (in 5th), Just Dance 4 (in 6th, and likely mostly due to Wii), and Skylanders Giants (in 9th).

Of course, it is highly unlikely that Black Ops II sold more copies on Wii U than Nintendo Land... but the point to be made here is that it's not clear which titles might be into the top 10 purely due to being available on so many platforms.

After all, watch what happens when we do the same thing with the US charts from the previous week (note: only using numbers that are accessible)...

Black Ops II: 1,222,453
AC3: 746,199
Kinect Adventures: 483,609
Hitman Absolution: 459,505
Just Dance 4: 412,812
Halo 4: 397,755
NSMB U: 316,344
Nintendo Land: 299,731
Madden NFL: 273,305 (using 24,760 and 11,813 for Wii and Vita versions as average for last three weeks, as exact numbers after week 10 aren't available - likely to be higher)

Considering that the Wii U had much more stock available (per capita) in the US than the UK, and you see my point - combining of versions from different platforms makes the GfK chart unreliable as a measure of system success. Then consider that the Wii U had only been out for 2 days at the time of that chart, whereas it released on the first day of the chart-week in the US.

Far more interesting, to me, is the other bit of information made available in that article... the position of ZombiU. It came in 17th. That's a pretty good showing for a new IP at system launch. On the (version-split) US chart, it came in 28th. It has been the best-selling Wii U title other than NSMB U and Nintendo Land in both regions (unless BO2, AC3, FIFA, Just Dance 4, or Skylanders Giants did better than it in the UK and the version-combining hides this result).



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Do the math OP, how much software can 40K units sell?

Why do we even have to explain this, didn't you go to school?

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Rab said:
Do the math OP, how much software can 40K units sell?

Why do we even have to explain this, didn't you go to school?

You know every Wii U owner in UK bought two copies of BOPS 2 for safety... so at least one game have 80k sales .



Rab said:
Do the math OP, how much software can 40K units sell?

Why do we even have to explain this, didn't you go to school?

Ok the maths well in the US 448k WiiU's were sold, top selling game sold 316k with roughly 70% of people buying Super mario wii U.

UK is at 40k Wii U's sold, if 70% of WiiU buyers were to buy Super mario wii U that would put it at 28k which should be well inside the top ten seen as lego sold 22k last week and came in at number 10.

You were saying?



pezus said:

These three were the only titles to break the top 40. The others are MAJOR flops.

A game isn't a flop because it fails to break the top 40 in its first week during a launch. Especially when you have no reference point for what the actual sales numbers are... which is why I'd rather wait for VGChartz's numbers, to get a better idea. It's possible that the difference between, say, Book of Spells for PS3 and 80th place is a mere 5%. We just don't know. Oh, and let's not forget the "only 2 days" factor.

But then, I'm more interested in actual information that can be drawn from the charts. Let's start with ZombiU, which is actually in 16th in the version-split chart, rather than 17th. This places it not far behind NSMB U in terms of position. Compare with the US, where NSMB U sold more than 3 times as many copies. Either ZombiU is popular in the UK due to setting, or it's just doing better proportionally by chance.

If you look at the "Value" chart, Nintendo Land comes in at 9th. Not sure how this is worked out (that is, how does one assign value if it's bundled?), but it's still interesting. ZombiU comes in at 15th by this metric, too.

Unfortunately, they do not yet have a proper Wii U chart, meaning that there's no reasonable way to see what comes after ZombiU. Indeed, the lack of a chart makes me wonder if they've got all of the information, yet. This isn't to say that the charts that are available are incomplete in any way, just that it's possible that their Wii U tracking isn't completed, yet.

Anyway, the whole point of what I said in my last post was that the article is looking at platform-agnostic sales and making comments about the performances of exclusive titles as though it's a meaningful comparison. Hence, a beat-up.



Aielyn said:

A game isn't a flop because it fails to break the top 40 in its first week during a launch. Especially when you have no reference point for what the actual sales numbers are... which is why I'd rather wait for VGChartz's numbers, to get a better idea. It's possible that the difference between, say, Book of Spells for PS3 and 80th place is a mere 5%. We just don't know. Oh, and let's not forget the "only 2 days" factor.

But then, I'm more interested in actual information that can be drawn from the charts. Let's start with ZombiU, which is actually in 16th in the version-split chart, rather than 17th. This places it not far behind NSMB U in terms of position. Compare with the US, where NSMB U sold more than 3 times as many copies. Either ZombiU is popular in the UK due to setting, or it's just doing better proportionally by chance.

If you look at the "Value" chart, Nintendo Land comes in at 9th. Not sure how this is worked out (that is, how does one assign value if it's bundled?), but it's still interesting. ZombiU comes in at 15th by this metric, too.

Unfortunately, they do not yet have a proper Wii U chart, meaning that there's no reasonable way to see what comes after ZombiU. Indeed, the lack of a chart makes me wonder if they've got all of the information, yet. This isn't to say that the charts that are available are incomplete in any way, just that it's possible that their Wii U tracking isn't completed, yet.

Anyway, the whole point of what I said in my last post was that the article is looking at platform-agnostic sales and making comments about the performances of exclusive titles as though it's a meaningful comparison. Hence, a beat-up.

ZombiU had a bundle in the UK, but not in the US.  Also Mario games are significantly more popular in the US.

Here is the top 20 WiiU chart.

1. Nintendo Land (Nintendo)
2. New Super Mario Bros U (Nintendo)
3. Zombi U (Ubisoft)
4. Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed (Sega)
5. Batman: Arkham City – Armoured Edition (Warner Bros)
6. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (Activision)
7. Sports Connection (Ubisoft)
8. Assassin’s Creed III (Ubisoft)
9. Just Dance 4 (Ubisoft)
10. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (Namco Bandai)
11. Rabbids Land (Ubisoft)
12. Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two (Disney)
13. Tank! Tank! Tank! (Namco Bandai)
14. FIFA 13 (EA)
15. Darksiders II (THQ)
16. Family Party: 30 Games Obstacle Arcade (Namco Bandai)
17. Mass Effect 3 (EA)
18. Ben 10: Omniverse (Namco Bandai)
19. Skylanders Giants (Activision)
20. Game Party Champions (Warner Bros)

Black Ops 2 was approximately 2k, and AC3 was 1,618 units.  It's pretty fair to say everything underneath that flopped.