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DanneSandin said:
CCFanboy said:
DanneSandin said:
I only hope that they follow through with this and give 3rd parties the support they need!


The third parties are getting the support they need. They are being more kind to them then microsoft currently are. They are promoting third party games more through adverts, directs, interviews, demos etc. They are paying them higher royalties for supporting the platform. And they are trying to make their online more appealing to indie devs then microsoft and sony are.

It isn't nintendo at fault. The people complaining about this need to start buying their multiplatform games on nintendo as they are given the option and 'mature' games will stick around. Frankly as far as I'm concerned it is getting too expensive to ignore nintendo anyway.

Well, my problem actually lies within Nintendo (or did with the Wii). The problem was that Wii lacked the power to get good ports, and if the WIi U follow suit we'll have yet another Wii situation - except that WIi U won't be able to sell as well...


True that is the danger, although the thing is that both Sony and MS sort of realize that the next generation isn't exactly going to be the same leap that previous ones were due to costs. Sony and MS could create systems that more then triple the output of their current devices but in doing so run the risk of pricing out developers. This is especially a danger in Japan, where most development has shifted over to portables not just because of esthetics of smaller devices but because developers are not seeing or liking the higher risks of throwing tons of money or development time into games, especially with the home market of Japan leaning toward genres that don't require such.

We see it as well in how many studios are getting shut down because despite putting massive amounts of effort and money into their projects and may not get a profitable return. Sony and MS are going to milk their current systems as long as possible until they get an idea on how to combat Nintendo and each other.



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Well, unfortunately for Sony and Microsoft, the only thing in the way between the Wii and a market monopoly was lack of solid third party developers.

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Crono141 said:
DanneSandin said:
CCFanboy said:
DanneSandin said:

Well, my problem actually lies within Nintendo (or did with the Wii). The problem was that Wii lacked the power to get good ports, and if the WIi U follow suit we'll have yet another Wii situation - except that WIi U won't be able to sell as well...


No worries mate. There will still be plenty of games in development for 360 and ps3 after the others come out. Any one of those can go to wii u. Then there are possible late ports of games still coming out now/early next year.

As for the power thing, the only engine I think wii u can't run is unreal 4. It will depend on who has the guts to leap into major development costs this early. Epic have estimated that development costs could still double as developers get used to unreal 4. Without that it is 4 - 5 times as much. I'm not so sure developers will be so eager to move on this soon. At least not enough to exclude hd platforms from development. Chances are there won't even be an ue4 game until late 2014 anyway.

But I want PS720 ports on Wii U...  Playing certain types of games on PC ain't good enough!! Darksiders on PC really can be a drag...

What I've heard is that UE4 will be extremely scalable, and will be able to run on smartphones. And if a god damn phone can run those games Wii U better be able to

I just finished Darksiders on PC, and it was far from a drag.  Smooth Framerates, sharp graphics, and nice anti-aliasing all around.  I wish DS2 on the WiiU looked as good.

Played with an Xbox360 controller, BTW.  It is the great equalizer between what makes consoles superior and what makes PC superior.

Well, playing with a xbox controller on the PC is kinda like cheating ;) But I probably will need to get me one of those if the Wii U sucks and don't get all the games...



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NoirSon said:
DanneSandin said:
CCFanboy said:
DanneSandin said:
I only hope that they follow through with this and give 3rd parties the support they need!


The third parties are getting the support they need. They are being more kind to them then microsoft currently are. They are promoting third party games more through adverts, directs, interviews, demos etc. They are paying them higher royalties for supporting the platform. And they are trying to make their online more appealing to indie devs then microsoft and sony are.

It isn't nintendo at fault. The people complaining about this need to start buying their multiplatform games on nintendo as they are given the option and 'mature' games will stick around. Frankly as far as I'm concerned it is getting too expensive to ignore nintendo anyway.

Well, my problem actually lies within Nintendo (or did with the Wii). The problem was that Wii lacked the power to get good ports, and if the WIi U follow suit we'll have yet another Wii situation - except that WIi U won't be able to sell as well...


True that is the danger, although the thing is that both Sony and MS sort of realize that the next generation isn't exactly going to be the same leap that previous ones were due to costs. Sony and MS could create systems that more then triple the output of their current devices but in doing so run the risk of pricing out developers. This is especially a danger in Japan, where most development has shifted over to portables not just because of esthetics of smaller devices but because developers are not seeing or liking the higher risks of throwing tons of money or development time into games, especially with the home market of Japan leaning toward genres that don't require such.

We see it as well in how many studios are getting shut down because despite putting massive amounts of effort and money into their projects and may not get a profitable return. Sony and MS are going to milk their current systems as long as possible until they get an idea on how to combat Nintendo and each other.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. PS720 won't be a huge leap (though, they will be stronger than Wii U), and for several reasons: Sony can't afford making a costly system, so there's no need for MS to make one either, and developing for games are expensive at it is... But it sure will be interesting to see PS720!!



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