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zuvuyeay said:
but i thought MS & Sony were waiting a couple of years to make the WiiU last gen


They don't have to wait for that to happen.

Wii U was last gen at lauch.

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Even though i want to see the ps4 being released before the 720 i doubt it

Look at microsofts 2013 lineup.. not much at all, then you compare it to sony's

Seems microsoft is more ready for the next gen then sony is



This is exactly what I have been thinking with PS4 release time. Killzone is crying out for a new entry and PS4 and killzone 4 along with uncharted 4 and even a Resistance 4 I believe are in the works. Tips have been all over the place or just the marketing value of everything 4 together with ps4. Like insomniac president talking about actually making the tapper weapon in the resistance universe as a possibility in the future. Uncharted and killzone especially killzone screaming for sequals in another year. There are rumors of ps2 production being stopped the only reason to stop making ps2 is because they are making a new console. Factor in nextbox high chip failure rate issues. I think patcher is right on the money with this one.



If anyone gets a headstart it will be Microsoft.

Still, hopefully when Sony launches in 2014 they'll have had time to prepare a good line-up...Uncharted, Killzone, etc.



Adinnieken said:

It seemed like only last month Sony's dev kits were released, where as Microsoft's have already been up for bid on eBay. 

Either Sony is crunching the R&D time for the PS4 or they've been working a lot harder than information has been getting leaked out about.

well the CEO over @ Sony that helps design the system, already commented about the next playstation running 3D stcked Chips with the cost development of the chipset being 1 billion in development , that of course was split among multiple companies for the R&D FOR THIS CHIPSET. THEY PUSHED IT BACK FROM 2010 TO 2011 so the interview was indeed jan 2012, So Pach, may infact be right its very unlikely in my opinion because anything can happen that far into advance but the CEO over at Sony confirmed this information.



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zuvuyeay said:
but i thought MS & Sony were waiting a couple of years to make the WiiU last gen

They don't need td wait years to do that. A $400 console sold at a ~50 loss could easily be much more powerful than a Wii U.
Keep in mind that the Wii U is nearly sold at a profit, Nintendo only needs for you to buy 1 retail game for your Wii U investment to become profitable.



Confirm ps3 still have 3 years life span. Anything else u want to add?



anamme said:
If anyone gets a headstart it will be Microsoft.

Still, hopefully when Sony launches in 2014 they'll have had time to prepare a good line-up...Uncharted, Killzone, etc.

Based on what? Just because Xbox 360 had a year headstart on PS3?

This is the latest rumor on the next Xbox http://semiaccurate.com/2012/09/04/microsoft-xbox-next-delay-rumors-abound/

"The chip, which is still referred to as ‘Oban’, is being run through multiple fabs in very high quantities, too high by more than an order of magnitude to simply be for dev kits. Yields on the chip are said to be something between painfully low, Nvidia Fermi painfully low, and worse than that. Given the sheer number of wafers Microsoft contracted for, this seems to be both an anticipated problem, and one they have plans to work through. That said, SemiAccurate’s sources are still reporting that there is much work to be done, yields are not even up to “horrid” yet."

This was only 2 months ago...
Now lets look at where the PS4 is at shall we? 
As of this earlier this month...http://www.vg247.com/2012/11/01/ps4_details_playstation_4/

"Multiple sources have confirmed to VG247 today that a new version of the Orbis kit is now shipping to developers, and that it’s housed in a normal PC case.

There are to be four versions of the dev kit, we were told. A previous version was essentially just a graphics card. The version shipping now is a “modified PC,” and the third version, appearing in January, will be close to final spec. A final version will be delivered to developers “next summer”."

 

So unless Microsoft is really good at keeping secrets.....PS4 seems to be further in development.



VGKing said:
anamme said:
If anyone gets a headstart it will be Microsoft.

Still, hopefully when Sony launches in 2014 they'll have had time to prepare a good line-up...Uncharted, Killzone, etc.

Based on what? Just because Xbox 360 had a year headstart on PS3?

This is the latest rumor on the next Xbox http://semiaccurate.com/2012/09/04/microsoft-xbox-next-delay-rumors-abound/

"The chip, which is still referred to as ‘Oban’, is being run through multiple fabs in very high quantities, too high by more than an order of magnitude to simply be for dev kits. Yields on the chip are said to be something between painfully low, Nvidia Fermi painfully low, and worse than that. Given the sheer number of wafers Microsoft contracted for, this seems to be both an anticipated problem, and one they have plans to work through. That said, SemiAccurate’s sources are still reporting that there is much work to be done, yields are not even up to “horrid” yet."

This was only 2 months ago...
Now lets look at where the PS4 is at shall we? 
As of this earlier this month...http://www.vg247.com/2012/11/01/ps4_details_playstation_4/

"Multiple sources have confirmed to VG247 today that a new version of the Orbis kit is now shipping to developers, and that it’s housed in a normal PC case.

There are to be four versions of the dev kit, we were told. A previous version was essentially just a graphics card. The version shipping now is a “modified PC,” and the third version, appearing in January, will be close to final spec. A final version will be delivered to developers “next summer”."

 

So unless Microsoft is really good at keeping secrets.....PS4 seems to be further in development.


Eh ... what?  Doesn't really sound either of them is ready for a 2013 launch by those rumors, but it also doesn't really paint any picture of one being further along at all.  That being said, doesn't the Xbox RUMOR make it seem as if an order has been placed for actual device chips and not dev kits?  And wouldn't that imply that they are hopeful to be gearing up for production?



I would gladly hear him making speculations about the approximate year he intends to end his career.