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Andrespetmonkey said:
ninetailschris said:
HoloDust said:
Minimum system requirements for Far Cry 3 are 4GB of RAM (reminder that both Win7 and Win 8 use less than 512MB of RAM)
Epic, Crytek and Square asked for lot of memory. Crytek specifically asked for minimum of 8GB (and I would bet Epic wants that too, them being one that pushed Microsoft to increase RAM in 360)
As for 8 cores - bulldozers have 8 cores @95W TDP - if they use GPU similar to 7970m (basically mobile downclocked 7870 with TDP of 75-100W) I don't see problem with system's TDP, so why not...


Um this isn't PC ram this console Ram.  Console ram is customized and doesn't need 4 ram because it doesn't have to 3-4 at time while runing the game. PC runs general purpose like ram not like console. Please give me quote were Square/Creak asked for 8gb ram because I know your bsing because that would be completely overshot. 

 

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/16241-crytek-wants-minimum-8gb-memory-next-console-generation/ 8GB

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2012/07/07/square_enix_next_gen_of_consoles_need_lots_of_ram "Lots of RAM"

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/09/battlefield-3s-rendering-architect-details-his-dream-specs-for/ "2GB not enough, we need 4GB, 8GB is ideal"


""There's two things: memory and processing power," he said. "We need lots and lots of processing power. The more you can cram into a machine, we'll take advantage of that." While 'more power' is the obvious answer -- both on the CPU and GPU side -- we wondered what wouldn't be 'enough' to work with."

That's them talking up storm as usual like when they were saying back during the (2006-7)ps3 days saying we wish it had more ram. They do this to build hype up for there games to say we are going to max out the ram when they never really do until the end of a generation(2010-12).

"Enix believes the PS4 and Xbox 8 will need as much RAM as possible if they want to match the experience of PCs with ever-evolving hardware. "

This didn't even give a number just a lot which can mean anything.

"http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/09/battlefield-3s-rendering-architect-details-his-dream-specs-for/"

Like I said 4gb they they ideal for 8gb because if there thinking towards the end of the gen for ps4/xbox720/Wii-U. Which would be true by then it's time go.

 




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Andrespetmonkey said:

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/16241-crytek-wants-minimum-8gb-memory-next-console-generation/ 8GB

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2012/07/07/square_enix_next_gen_of_consoles_need_lots_of_ram "Lots of RAM"

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/09/battlefield-3s-rendering-architect-details-his-dream-specs-for/ "2GB not enough, we need 4GB, 8GB is ideal"

I think that it's mostly wishful thinking, obviously not a game dev myself but 8 GB of RAM dedicated for games it's way too much, 4 GB will be more than enough imo.

If this is true and the system have that much RAM, it will most likely be used for the Kinect 2.0 and a big OS, it will probably be 3-4 GB dedicated for games, which it's still a lot.  



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ninetailschris said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/16241-crytek-wants-minimum-8gb-memory-next-console-generation/ 8GB

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2012/07/07/square_enix_next_gen_of_consoles_need_lots_of_ram "Lots of RAM"

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/09/battlefield-3s-rendering-architect-details-his-dream-specs-for/ "2GB not enough, we need 4GB, 8GB is ideal"


"http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/09/battlefield-3s-rendering-architect-details-his-dream-specs-for/"

Like I said 4gb they they ideal for 8gb because if there thinking towards the end of the gen for ps4/xbox720/Wii-U. Which would be true by then it's time go.

I acknowledged the lack of a specific number in the Sqenix quote, and I'm not going to bother arguing with you about what "lots" means to them. Can you at least admit that their are developers who very clearly want 8GB and you were wrong to say that guy was bullshitting?



osed125 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/16241-crytek-wants-minimum-8gb-memory-next-console-generation/ 8GB

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2012/07/07/square_enix_next_gen_of_consoles_need_lots_of_ram "Lots of RAM"

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/09/battlefield-3s-rendering-architect-details-his-dream-specs-for/ "2GB not enough, we need 4GB, 8GB is ideal"

 

I think that it's mostly wishful thinking, obviously not a game dev myself but 8 GB of RAM dedicated for games it's way too much, 4 GB will be more than enough imo.

 

Neither am I, but I'm going to go with the people who are game developers, and if they say 4-8GB of RAM is neccessary then it's probably neccessary.



Well 8gigs of ram dont matter if its crappy standard ram. Well lets see what the true specs will look like. <

BTW I am pretty sure a Kinect 2.0 will take quite a chunk of the ressources.



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FrancisNobleman said:
On par with Wii U, then.

I hope that was sarcasm... 

I think I just made myself look like a chump



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osed125 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/16241-crytek-wants-minimum-8gb-memory-next-console-generation/ 8GB

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2012/07/07/square_enix_next_gen_of_consoles_need_lots_of_ram "Lots of RAM"

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/09/battlefield-3s-rendering-architect-details-his-dream-specs-for/ "2GB not enough, we need 4GB, 8GB is ideal"

 

I think that it's mostly wishful thinking, obviously not a game dev myself but 8 GB of RAM dedicated for games it's way too much, 4 GB will be more than enough imo.

If this is true and the system have that much RAM, it will most likely be used for the Kinect 2.0 and a big OS, it will probably be 3-4 GB dedicated for games, which it's still a lot.  

 


Its called future proofing...



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Andrespetmonkey said:
FrancisNobleman said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
FrancisNobleman said:

I'm not sure whether it is an awesome plan, or the most stupid one.

Just because it works for phones, doesn't imply it will work for home consoles.

Doesn't imply that it won't either, why not try it out?

Because if it fails, Microsoft is left with a strategic plan which consists of selling a 600$ console at retail.

In the other hand, I haven't said a word that it is not possible, and if it trully takes off, you'll see Nintendo in some sort of disavantage.


Why $600? Could be 400 or 500 or 350...

Agreed dude... Francis talks like he knows what the final price of the 720 would be...



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JazzB1987 said:

Well 8gigs of ram dont matter if its crappy standard ram. Well lets see what the true specs will look like. <

BTW I am pretty sure a Kinect 2.0 will take quite a chunk of the ressources.


I've read about it being 8GB of standard DDR3 RAM plus embedded DRAM on the GPU making for a quite... peculiar design.

I don't know why on Earth they aren't going to but 4GB of faster GDDR5 like Sony probably is going to do instead of having to sold all these memory nodes into the motherboard. That's going to be quite expensive.



 

 

 

 

 

Possible but unlikely in my opinion ... This would (likely) result in a (roughly) $500 console that was not (fully) backwards compatible