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Parokki said:
I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed with the sales of GTA4. It's still an extremely noteworthy title, and might even boost hardware sales of the HD consoles above the Wii for a week or two, but permanently turning sales trends, or achieving the kinds of numbers the previous parts did?

This might be just my personal nutpot theory, but I don't think a majority of the people who bought the previous parts have a current gen console yet. The PS2 sold well to the masses of people who hadn't cared about games before the Playstations, but for some unexplainable reason Sony priced their new console over what that crowd is paying, and the only one really going after them now is Nintendo.

The biggest reason the previous parts did so damn well is that they were accessible to everyone, on a console everyone had. Shooting aliens? Fun for us gamers, but most people are turned off by the idea. Leading armies across the globe? Hacking apart half of the Greek mythology? Saving Hyrule? Clearly millions of people are interested in all that, but look what happens when someone makes a game where you play a criminal in a large city, and can do whatever you want. Unbeliveable mass appeal.

Games like Gran Turismo and Grand Theft Auto profited the most of the PS2's insanely wide appeal, and will see the biggest hits from alienating the casual audience. GTA4 will definitely be a 4M+ seller both consoles combined, but 10M or 15M is on par with most John Lucas stuff. I expect it to launch slower than Halo 3, but have much better legs, and possibly overtake it in a year or so.

I second this argument, plus what reverie said "the PS2 sold GTA more than the other way around. We will see blips of a few 100k for each console in the week of release of GTA. GTA Sales on 360 will be more front-loaded and sales on PS3 will have longer legs." 



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point 1 - GTA will not slow down the wii - after all the name calling of the wii being a "kiddy" system and a "casual" system i don't get how anyone can think GTA would woo any of that market.

point 2 - i'm predicting disappointing sales for GTAIV. I base this solely off the opinions of three my friends (as i am not a GTA fan). Each of them owned a ps2, owned GTAIII, GTA VC, and GTA SA. Each of them were very dissapointed by GTA SA and the reasons they state was they were getting bored with the series.

okay, is my evidence anecdotal? yes, very but between their opinions, ps3 sales being below expectations, and higher than expectation wii sales i just have a gut feeling GTA is going to be the flagship of the decline of last generation gaming. just my opinion though, i can't prove a thing until the game is released and the sales data is reported.



I think a lot of people used to play PS2 big games
when they see FF and GTA and GT5
also X360 games
like HALO 3 , GoW ,Fable , CoD

and don't forget PES08

the mixture of these games will make some people to buy X360 of PS3 instead of WII ..



GTA 4 won't affect the Wii no more than Halo 3 affected the Wii, totally different appeal, most people have no interest in GTA 4



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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I think a lot of people used to play PS2 big games
when they see FF and GTA and GT5
also X360 games
like HALO 3 , GoW ,Fable , CoD

and don't forget PES08

the mixture of these games will make some people to buy X360 of PS3 instead of WII ..

 


A lot being 15 million out of 115 million, so a lot is less than 15% for you?

 

Yeah most of those people are already getting a PS3 or a 360, or just waiting for the next price drop to get one, so that won't affect the Wii, as they already planned to get a PS3 or 360, many of those will probably have the Wii as a second console as well



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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GTA 4 won't affect the Wii no more than Halo 3 affected the Wii, totally different appeal, most people have no interest in GTA 4

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 15.21
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 14.20
Grand Theft Auto 3 11.60

it`s like saying. Most people have no interest in Mario games.

Mario Kart: Double Dash 6.60
Super Smash Bros Melee 6.58
Super Mario Sunshine 5.91
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker 4.38
Luigi Mansion 3.39
Metroid Prime 2.77

You must be a TOTALLY BLIND nintendo fanboy. =))



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

I don't think GTA will make as bigger impact as it did previously, i think it will totally boost hardware sales for HD console. And Saying GTA will stop Wii sales at this point is almost wishfull thinking , people neesd to get get over it! Its not like the people buying the Wii are buying it because they think they will be getting GTA later on, thats the most retarded thing i have heard.



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I said ( GTA + FF + GT 5 + some other good game )
Not only GTA
but I think GTA will make the difference

GTA come to X360 and PS3 but not WII
hope you understand what I'm saying



some WII owners may think like that : (some)
Oh I want to buy GTA .. but it doesn't matter .. one game not a big thing
after that he go to the shop and see halo and Gears of wars and some X360 bundles .. AND GTA ..
I think he will buy X360

UNDERSTAND ?



most wii owners won't know what gears of war and other 'hardcore' games are



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp