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Forums - Sony Discussion - Sony Q4 and FY 2011 : PS3 1.9m shipped - PSV 1.8m lifetime.

I'm not seeing how we can be that off for the PS3. I thought our numbers were pretty spot on with Nintendo's? Maybe take away that ~150K we added recently and we should be fine.



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thismeintiel said:
I'm not seeing how we can be that off for the PS3.

Just look at the Weekly Hardware chart. If you added up America, Europe and Japan, you'd have noticed a "Rest of the World" number where PS3 outsells X360 3:1 (or even more) every week this year. This ratio is completely fictious. Remove about 15-20k overtracking every week and you get a PS3 overtrack by at least 200k alone.



ImJustBayuum said:
MS stuff the supply chain by shipping a lot of xbox 360s to their own store..massive assertion from some people on this forum. Shame they got no facts to back that up. PS3 overtracked, clearly.

I know you're not much for following the track of the conversation and just flaming specific points you disagree with, but let me set you straight.

I believe the PS3 is overtracked by up to 500k.

However, that has literally nothing to do with MS (not "stuffing the supply chain" Mr. straw man) shipping many consoles to their own stores in preparation for this "price test".

Again, I also stated that it wasn't a fact, but is a logical possibility. It has the motivation, the capability, and the situation fits it quite well. That being said, it could still be wrong. But since we have no way of knowing without specific word from above, I prefer to speculate on where these consoles are because what is fun to me is figuring out what is going on. Not sitting back and talking shit about others for asking questions. Derp.



OH GAWD, is THIS why Seece left???

This thread was decent for the first few pages and then went nuts with crazy speculative talk spouted out as logical facts, mostly about the friggin' 360 and not SONY's financials which this thread is supposed to be about.

Seriously, some of you are ruining this community and no one seems to care ...



Darth Tigris said:
OH GAWD, is THIS why Seece left???

This thread was decent for the first few pages and then went nuts with crazy speculative talk spouted out as logical facts, mostly about the friggin' 360 and not SONY's financials which this thread is supposed to be about.

Seriously, some of you are ruining this community and no one seems to care ...

You can't argue that my theory COULDN'T happen. That is why it is logical.

You can argue that my theory DIDN'T happen. With which I will submit that I don't know any more than anyone else.

The entire thing was brought up because the question arose, by a 360 fan *rolls eyes that you didn't read this* that why is it ok for 360 to have so much in supply and not ps3. I brought up a logical reason as to HOW it could be possible. Nothing more. Don't get too excited.



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Darth Tigris said:
OH GAWD, is THIS why Seece left???

This thread was decent for the first few pages and then went nuts with crazy speculative talk spouted out as logical facts, mostly about the friggin' 360 and not SONY's financials which this thread is supposed to be about.

Seriously, some of you are ruining this community and no one seems to care ...


This thread was started a day ago :P Way after Seece left 



I don't know how many consoles MS is supposed to overship in their stores but to me that "logic" is ridiculous. they have like what... 17 stores...

100 000 (number taken out of my... out of nowhere) divided by 17 = less than 6000 consoles... can they ship that much to their stores? Really? And put them where... lol!

You guys should provide more evidence as to why you think this is possible...



Jazz2K said:
I don't know how many consoles MS is supposed to overship in their stores but to me that "logic" is ridiculous. they have like what... 17 stores...

100 000 (number taken out of my... out of nowhere) divided by 17 = less than 6000 consoles... can they ship that much to their stores? Really? And put them where... lol!

You guys should provide more evidence as to why you think this is possible...


little did you know each store is built from 360 consoles and not bricks, 



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I work the retailer who sells more PS3's than any other in NA

And I'll tell you right now PS3 is not even remotly supply constrained and wasn't at any point in Q4.

PS3 is pretty significantly overtracked.



theprof00 said:
ImJustBayuum said:
MS stuff the supply chain by shipping a lot of xbox 360s to their own store..massive assertion from some people on this forum. Shame they got no facts to back that up. PS3 overtracked, clearly.

I know you're not much for following the track of the conversation and just flaming specific points you disagree with, but let me set you straight.

I believe the PS3 is overtracked by up to 500k.

However, that has literally nothing to do with MS (not "stuffing the supply chain" Mr. straw man) shipping many consoles to their own stores in preparation for this "price test".

Again, I also stated that it wasn't a fact, but is a logical possibility. It has the motivation, the capability, and the situation fits it quite well. That being said, it could still be wrong. But since we have no way of knowing without specific word from above, I prefer to speculate on where these consoles are because what is fun to me is figuring out what is going on. Not sitting back and talking shit about others for asking questions. Derp.

I think it's time you took a break from mafia, you speculate way too much. In all likelyhood even if your theory holds merit(in theory), there simply isn't enough stores to stuff that many 360s into. Unless each acompanies a large warehouse they have nowhere to put them, there is possibly a higher possibility of them shipping the 360s to Bermuda's triangle, or to the lost island.

It's viable on paper, but in reality that sort of practice would have been found out by now, after all, it's been a full quarter. Someone is buying up the 360s, likely a rich oil baron, but nonetheless, MS is unlikely stuffing their own 20 or so stores they have worldwide.

Kudos on the theory though. What we can do is wait untill the next Q financials, after this programme kicks off - if it's a success and the shipments will not tell a similar story then your theory is correct that they've overshipped in anticipation, however, if the numbers are on par with last years or general trends, then it's probably wrong.(Similar because of taking the degredation of the industry into account)



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