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Which of the big 3 had the most potential to "win" this gen?

Microsoft 17 12.88%
 
Sony 79 59.85%
 
Nintendo 36 27.27%
 
Total:132

This thread is where we come to complain and dissect the failures of the industry, and fantasize about what could of been. It could be a developer, a publisher, a console manufacturer, the gaming press or even us, the consumers. You can consider this a spinoff of NintendoPie's Why do you like Nin/Son/Mic thread.

I'll start us off with the PS3.

I think the biggest mistake Sony made with the PS3 was, by far, t3h c3ll. The R&D and manufacturing costs for this thing were a nightmare, and from a business perspective, a completely idiotic move on Sony's part. It was hyped to be the second coming of processors and put Playstation years into the future, but what actually happened is it was bottlenecked by the limited RAM and comparatively underpowered GPU in the PS3, meaning it's full power will never be achieved. And even if developers can get past some horrendous architecture and cleverely optimize for it, the results are hardly ahead of the competition if at all.

Let's imagine that Sony never developed the Cell, and went with a similar processor in terms of power to 360s, this leaves the PS3 $100 cheaper and in much better shape to face the competition. Sony had the brand power at that point to release a console $50 to $100 more than the others and fly by the 360 and maybe even the Wii, but $200 more? That's just insane. And even if Sony wanted to be at the bleeding edge, noticeably more powerfull than the 360, they could of done that without the Cell easily, and more effectively. Keep a similar processor to the 360, double the RAM and use a slightly better GPU in the PS3 and it would still be $50 cheaper than a Cell-included PS3, not to mention the hundreds of millions that would be saved in R&D costs.



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I would say Sony. They have the highest selling console, the PS2, and they could've done something just as great with the PS3. (Don't ask me what made the PS2 so popular, I don't know.) Sony did something right the generation before last gen. that they didn't do with the PS3.



NintendoPie said:
I would say Sony. They have the highest selling console, the PS2, and they could've done something just as great with the PS3. (Don't ask me what made the PS2 so popular, I don't know.) Sony did something right the generation before last gen. that they didn't do with the PS3.

What did whoever do wrong Mr Pie, not just who :P



Andrespetmonkey said:
NintendoPie said:
I would say Sony. They have the highest selling console, the PS2, and they could've done something just as great with the PS3. (Don't ask me what made the PS2 so popular, I don't know.) Sony did something right the generation before last gen. that they didn't do with the PS3.

What did whoever do wrong Mr Pie, not just who :P

Uhh... what? Are you asking me to say why I think that? I told you, I don't really know what made them so popular GameCube/PS2 Era.



NintendoPie said:

Uhh... what? Are you asking me to say why I think that? I told you, I don't really know what made them so popular GameCube/PS2 Era.

Yup, unless that post was answering the poll Q instead of the thread title Q, in that case my bad.



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Andrespetmonkey said:
NintendoPie said:

Uhh... what? Are you asking me to say why I think that? I told you, I don't really know what made them so popular GameCube/PS2 Era.

Yup, unless that post was answering the poll Q instead of the thread title Q, in that case my bad.

Yes, I was answering the Pol Question.



Who did what wrong? Simple

Sony - Too high price and overly complicated design making it hard for developers.
MS - RRoD fiasco and not managing a lot of their IPs well.
Nintendo - Wii too underpowered. While I think it was a good choice to not go as powerful as the PS3/360, they held back far too much.

The most potential to win? Sony. They utterly dominated the PS1/PS2 era. The PS2 outsold the GC and XBox combined by a HUGE margin. Instead of improving their position they came in last. Had they launched the PS3 at a reasonable price I'm sure they could have maintained a market share more in line with the PS2 days.



Turkish says and I'm allowed to quote that: Uncharted 3 and God Of War 3 look better than Unreal Engine 4 games will or the tech demo does. Also the Naughty Dog PS3 ENGINE PLAYS better than the UE4 ENGINE.

All 3

Sony: after the ps1 and ps2,I was ready for next gen and was really dissapointed with the ps3.No good games at launch and lack of jrpgs and the useless piece of crap that was the six asix.Let's not forget the price of the damn system.The psp was pretty awsome though although I would've liked to seen more triple a titles apart from rockstar and square enix.Plus what is what up with copying nintendo recently...psp Move anyone

Microsoft: Making me pay for online,I dont have an xbox so I cant say much about it.I was also disappointed with a lot of thier franchises for some reason..Gears 3,Banjo Kazooie and Fable 3.Not a fan of kinect either

Nintendo:Terrible online system and a underpowered console made me miss a lot of ports and I had to buy 2 consoles.Lack of third party support.Lack of games that utilised the wii remote to it's full potential.I really loved their games a lot this gen,Mario Galaxy,Prime trilogy,Skyward Sword and Xenoblade.The ds was just epic though.Everything a gamer could ask for



NintendoPie said:
I would say Sony. They have the highest selling console, the PS2, and they could've done something just as great with the PS3. (Don't ask me what made the PS2 so popular, I don't know.) Sony did something right the generation before last gen. that they didn't do with the PS3.


I think that a large part of the PS2's success can be attributed to the failings of the competition.



Mummelmann said:
NintendoPie said:
I would say Sony. They have the highest selling console, the PS2, and they could've done something just as great with the PS3. (Don't ask me what made the PS2 so popular, I don't know.) Sony did something right the generation before last gen. that they didn't do with the PS3.


I think that a large part of the PS2's success can be attributed to the failings of the competition.

It also proves that better graphics =/= always win. (NGC had the best graphics, right?)