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Are humans invaluable?

Yes 35 47.95%
 
No 21 28.77%
 
For the moment, yes 4 5.48%
 
See results 13 17.81%
 
Total:73

americans are worth more if you're talking human trafficking, or what ever the ransom is for the person and if you're willing to pay it.

in general, humans are equal. it all depends on what type of selling you're doing with the human in question.



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Jay520 said:


They don't have to do the same things as humans. If I'm understanding THE1 correctly, then the computers don't have to operate in the exact same function as a human brain, they simply have to do so well enough that we humans think they are mimicking human brains. 

no he thinks it will surpass us and free think

he doesn't understand computers

 

even if computers are mimicking,critical thinkers can tell.

 

as for the herd porpulation,they don't even need computer that powerfull.they are deceived by todays media and politics


I don't think there will ever be a computer that can completely mimick a human brain, but I do believe that sometime in the future, technology will progress enough to the point that we can percieve it that way. I'd say that's certainly possible

nope

the only thing that we can do is smoothen the interaction between humans and computers





Andrespetmonkey said:

That's funny coming from you, you're probably the most egotistical person I've seen on here. 


you mistaken egoism with stubborness

 

i research alot and then logically breakdown the problems to reach the root as to solve the problem.

then i stick with the solution.



Roma said:

Intelligence is based on learning, creating and solving. Some animals can learn other can learn and create (paintings if taught) but there is no animal (that I know of) that creates things on their own. Sure they can use tools like a stick or a rock to crack open an egg, dig up worms and that is intelligence.

 

We humans are more intelligent as we can learn so much or ells we would not be on the internet and writing and whatever.

 

Everything living has a soul (that’s what makes the body “live”) and for me the bigger the animal is the harder it is for me to kill it. I mean compare a mosquito too a cat for example. Of course I would kill the cat and leave the poor mosquito alone!

 

As for humans hmm if you would ask me to kill a killer or a normal nice human I would kill the killer as that = less humans dead. But if you’re talking about intelligence then I can’t answer that. I would prefer not too choose who dies unless it’s about a killer…



You clearly don't get what I was saying.  We have defined intelligence as that, yes.  And in that case, according to our own input, yes, we are the most intelligent animals on the planet.  But this so called intelligence you speak of has made humans into the most destructive (and what I often think of as stupid) animals on the whole planet.

Why should "intelligence" alone determine whether we are worth more or less than animals...because I personally feel what our "intelligence" has turned us into has made us worth far less than animals.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

I don't think its our intelligence that makes us valuable...but rather our ability to perceive our own existence, or our consciousness.



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Shinobi-san said:
I don't think its our intelligence that makes us valuable...but rather our ability to perceive our own existence, or our consciousness.

that is what intelligence really is



snakenobi said:
Jay520 said:


They don't have to do the same things as humans. If I'm understanding THE1 correctly, then the computers don't have to operate in the exact same function as a human brain, they simply have to do so well enough that we humans think they are mimicking human brains. 

no he thinks it will surpass us and free think

he doesn't understand computers

 

even if computers are mimicking,critical thinkers can tell.

 

as for the herd porpulation,they don't even need computer that powerfull.they are deceived by todays media and politics


I don't think there will ever be a computer that can completely mimick a human brain, but I do believe that sometime in the future, technology will progress enough to the point that we can percieve it that way. I'd say that's certainly possible

nope

the only thing that we can do is smoothen the interaction between humans and computers



I'm no tech guru and I certainly don't know how advanced computers, or any man-made beings, will reach during the rest of human technology, so I really don't know how smart computers can or will become. I doubt anyone can predict how advanced technology will become in hundreds of thousands years, so I won't get into this debate. In fact, I'm almost certain it's impossible to predict how far technology will progress in hundreds of thousands of years. I'm sure a hundred years ago, people could never have predicted the achievements of our technology, now. History has shown us that predicting anything concerning technology only one hundred years in the future will likely be wrong, but if you think you know what will or what won't exist through technology in hundreds of thousands of years, then so be it.

Besides, the matter of computer intelligence wasn't the focal point of this thread anyway. Sure, it may be ridiculous to suggest that computers could surpass the intelligence of humans (I truly don't know), but that's the entire basis behind hypothetical questions. With hypothical questions, there's usually a idealistic premise (which may be impractical) that is assumed to be true for argument's sake of the greater proposition at hand.The hypothetical premise may or may not be possible, but that's not the point. The point of these question is to explore the potential consequences of the principle in question.

Just because it's impossible to ever occur, doesn't mean it's not worth discussing the potential effects of it's imaginary existence.

Grow an imagination, sheesh.



The worth of a human to this planet isn't very much.



 

 

 

Level1Death said:
The worth of a human to this planet isn't very much.


Very true. We're causing more harm to the planet than good.

What's your definition of 'value', THE1?



Jay520 said:

I'm no tech guru and I certainly don't know how advanced computers, or any man-made beings, will reach during the rest of human technology, so I really don't know how smart computers can or will become. I doubt anyone can predict how advanced technology will become in hundreds of thousands years, so I won't get into this debate. In fact, I'm almost certain it's impossible to predict how far technology will progress in hundreds of thousands of years. I'm sure a hundred years ago, people could never have predicted the achievements of our technology, now. History has shown us that predicting anything concerning technology only one hundred years in the future will likely be wrong, but if you think you know what will or what won't exist through technology in hundreds of thousands of years, then so be it.

Besides, the matter of computer intelligence wasn't the focal point of this thread anyway. Sure, it may be ridiculous to suggest that computers could surpass the intelligence of humans (I truly don't know), but that's the entire basis behind hypothetical questions. With hypothical questions, there's usually a idealistic premise (which may be impractical) that is assumed to be true for argument's sake of the greater proposition at hand.The hypothetical premise may or may not be possible, but that's not the point. The point of these question is to explore the potential consequences of the principle in question.

Just because it's impossible to ever occur, doesn't mean it's not worth discussing the potential effects of it's imaginary existence.

Grow an imagination, sheesh.

define smartness?

for exmaple google,it knows alot of information

 

but only we can tell whether information is right of wrong.this ability is called free will and is applied by critical thinking.

whatever technology there may be,we the humans or other natural species will put it into action.Computer won't operate on its own.

 

and i didn't really start this discussion the OP did as he didn't understand how computers worked.

 

about growing an imagination,well this isn't a fantasy thread so i can't really go off-topic.Tell the moderators to loosen up on rules and i am ready to go into deep imaginations.