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Zlejedi on 08 March 2012
RolStoppable said:
theprof00 said:
Why does everyone suddenly think Vita needs a price drop simply because the 3ds had one?
It's like everyone gets their business lessons from Nintendo.

Wait for them to release some more games and then let's see how it does.

There's nothing meaningful in the pipeline until... October?

Then again, no price drop would accelerate the failure, so by all means it should be done as you say.

Sure apart from Resistance, LBP, Gravity Daze and some other smaller titles

I'd rather be worrying about 3DS sales in america after 160k January so fast after uber price drop and two supersellers releases.



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jonnybmk on 08 March 2012

3DS still going strong. Upcoming games ought to keep that momentum going.

Surprising to see Vita falter a bit since it released with so many "Western" games. It's gotta be the entry price, right? (System + memory card + game = $$$$$)



Cold Light on 08 March 2012
MattyPeq said:
Cold Light said:
Vita's initial performance horror (similar to the 3DS one) confirmed?

It needs games, internal memory, price cut and exciting announcements just like an air. I hope E3 will show us some of these things. And it will improve in the future.


Internal memory? :S Are you serious? What will Sony tell to people who spent A LOT of money in memory cards?

You will never see a Vita with internal memory, until we get a redesign (maybe).

No price cut. 3DS's price cut worked because it was a very huge price cut. And I still believe they didn't need that. Games would have been enough.

Vita just needs games.

Yup, first of all.

I ain't talking about things like memory, price cut or redesign like something that need to be here tomorrow. Just when its time comes and when Sony will be ready. And it won't be this year and likely even the next.

P.S. Nothing unexpected this week. Someone posted prediction about below 150k PSV performance. Good that it's wrong. Vita is doing ok, start was ok too, but this thing will continue falling until games coming.




 

binary solo on 08 March 2012
Conegamer said:
VicViper said:
Conegamer said:
kowenicki said:
Didn't Jack T want 500k in the first 3 weeks in the US for Vita?

Most of us commented... well thats a low estimate it will easily make that.

It will be about 300k to 315k... these are poor numbers pure and simple.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=140403

I think Sony is trying to sweep that one under the rug, as it were


In his defense, it's not that he said his goal was to sell that, but that he would be pleased if it sold that.

Anyway, this was about japan's launch, where they sold more or less 500k in 3 weeks.  The real quote of the interview is in one of my posts in that same thread - he was just telling people that the japanese launch was not as bad as people are telling. I agree, the subsequent weeks are the ones that are terrible.

And it shall be in subsequent weeks where the battle is won or lost. If it drops to below 25k in America before E3, then Sony are in REAL trouble. 

Because then you're looking at 25+30+9= 64k WW. Which is horrid for a console mere months after launch.

 

I'm not saying this will happen, but Sony need to do something to prevent something like this.

I get the feeling, though it's early days yet, that people are looking at 3DS and saying, '"We forced Ninty to drasticaly cut the price mere months after it was released by not buying it. If I stay away from PSV for now Sony will do the same." Expect several sub 100K weeks leading in to E3 and a price cut (or at least a we'll pack in a memory stick for the std price) announcement from Sony. I also think Sony could announce a sku with a few gig of internal memory, at least enough to hold one game. Big mistake to force everyone to get an expensive memory stick now that everyone's been trained to expect to have sufficient internal memory on their devices to at least be fully functional out of the box. Baseline Androids even have 512MB internal memory, which is bugger all but still enough to have a few apps and some of your most favourite music.

If 3DS couldn't breathe at $250 on launch then PSV probably can't either (esp given it's really $280?). Only Apple can sell massive amounts of portable gaming devices at prices like that. Though theirs are more likely to go for $400 and still outsell 3DS and PSV combined.



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Tatewaki75 on 08 March 2012

Gah, That's not so good news for the Vita. I'd honestly have to attribute it to the high initial start up cost, and consumer wariness after 3DS got a huge cut so early into it's life. A lot of players got burned, and though Nintendo tried to make good with the Ambassador program, there were still quite a few people upset. I can see sales tapering off as the weeks pass. Lets hope that E3 brings something to the table for Sony, because Competition is a good thing in this industry, since it pushes 1st parties to bring their A game. I'm personally waiting until after E3 to get a Vita, because that's when we should get a good idea of it's future.



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VGKing on 08 March 2012
pezus said:
360 and PS3 also dropping dangerously low (If you disregard PS3's unusually high sales this week in Japan because of One Piece. 360 will probably get a good boost next week with ME3 and the limited edition ME3 consoles.


There are no Mass Effect 3 consoles.....



paulrage2 on 08 March 2012

This is the first time that i see PS3 selling more in Japan than Europe and USA.



VGKing on 08 March 2012
jonnybmk said:
3DS still going strong. Upcoming games ought to keep that momentum going.

Surprising to see Vita falter a bit since it released with so many "Western" games. It's gotta be the entry price, right? (System + memory card + game = $$$$$)


Vita just launched. Word of mouth still needs to spread and the big games have yet to come.
For the hardcore gamer there is more than enough to play on the Vita since Day 1.



VGKing on 08 March 2012
binary solo said:
Conegamer said:
VicViper said:
Conegamer said:
kowenicki said:
Didn't Jack T want 500k in the first 3 weeks in the US for Vita?

Most of us commented... well thats a low estimate it will easily make that.

It will be about 300k to 315k... these are poor numbers pure and simple.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=140403

I think Sony is trying to sweep that one under the rug, as it were


In his defense, it's not that he said his goal was to sell that, but that he would be pleased if it sold that.

Anyway, this was about japan's launch, where they sold more or less 500k in 3 weeks.  The real quote of the interview is in one of my posts in that same thread - he was just telling people that the japanese launch was not as bad as people are telling. I agree, the subsequent weeks are the ones that are terrible.

And it shall be in subsequent weeks where the battle is won or lost. If it drops to below 25k in America before E3, then Sony are in REAL trouble. 

Because then you're looking at 25+30+9= 64k WW. Which is horrid for a console mere months after launch.

 

I'm not saying this will happen, but Sony need to do something to prevent something like this.

I get the feeling, though it's early days yet, that people are looking at 3DS and saying, '"We forced Ninty to drasticaly cut the price mere months after it was released by not buying it. If I stay away from PSV for now Sony will do the same." Expect several sub 100K weeks leading in to E3 and a price cut (or at least a we'll pack in a memory stick for the std price) announcement from Sony. I also think Sony could announce a sku with a few gig of internal memory, at least enough to hold one game. Big mistake to force everyone to get an expensive memory stick now that everyone's been trained to expect to have sufficient internal memory on their devices to at least be fully functional out of the box. Baseline Androids even have 512MB internal memory, which is bugger all but still enough to have a few apps and some of your most favourite music.

If 3DS couldn't breathe at $250 on launch then PSV probably can't either (esp given it's really $280?). Only Apple can sell massive amounts of portable gaming devices at prices like that. Though theirs are more likely to go for $400 and still outsell 3DS and PSV combined.


$250 +  $20 = $270

BTW the cheapest iPad is like $500 without 4G.



jonnybmk on 08 March 2012
VGKing said:
jonnybmk said:
3DS still going strong. Upcoming games ought to keep that momentum going.

Surprising to see Vita falter a bit since it released with so many "Western" games. It's gotta be the entry price, right? (System + memory card + game = $$$$$)


Vita just launched. Word of mouth still needs to spread and the big games have yet to come.
For the hardcore gamer there is more than enough to play on the Vita since Day 1.

Are you talking just about Japan or something? I don't get it.

The big games have yet to come but there's more than enough for hardcore gamers??