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Kasz216 on 13 December 2011
wfz said:
enrageorange said:

All this America hate is great.

Yes "suprisingly" America is spying on Iran. How is that any different then Russia hacking the USA powergrid in order to have the ability to shut it down at any moment and starting a war just as illegal as the Iraqi one, or China hacking every single US satellite and military facility, or France and the UK initiating the invasion of Libya to secure their oil deposits, or Japan launching a spy satellite who's only purpose can be to perform illegal activities, or Isreal's mass assassinations of basically anyone who disagreed with them, or Pakistan hiding Osama Bin Laden and mastermining terrorist attacks on India, or Iran funding and helping Iraqi insurgents to destabilize the elected iraqi government.

There is no government of a major country that follows all "international laws"


America may be no worse than them, and in fact, gives out way more help and support to other nations than any other nation in the world, but USA is the biggest power and other nations are extremely jealous of it. Their jealousy breeds hate, and that hate breeds snarky attitudes towards anything the USA does, and that snarky attiude breeds the dark side! or something..

 

But yeah I definitely find the USA hate to be silly.

It is pretty funny to see people activly cheering Iran.

That said, if I was Iran I wouldn't give the drone back.

Why the hell don't these things have self destruct features?  I mean they're pretty high tech stuff that only a handful of countries have.



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NiKKoM on 13 December 2011
SamuelRSmith said:
Or, you know, there's a chance that the thing is fake: http://the-diplomat.com/flashpoints-blog/2011/12/09/irans-drone-fake/

I don't think we have to worry about a country which is so technologically backwards that it needs to import gasoline, despite having vast oil reserves.

Why would the US ask it back? Why not say it's fake?



 

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Badassbab on 13 December 2011
wfz said:
enrageorange said:

All this America hate is great.

Yes "suprisingly" America is spying on Iran. How is that any different then Russia hacking the USA powergrid in order to have the ability to shut it down at any moment and starting a war just as illegal as the Iraqi one, or China hacking every single US satellite and military facility, or France and the UK initiating the invasion of Libya to secure their oil deposits, or Japan launching a spy satellite who's only purpose can be to perform illegal activities, or Isreal's mass assassinations of basically anyone who disagreed with them, or Pakistan hiding Osama Bin Laden and mastermining terrorist attacks on India, or Iran funding and helping Iraqi insurgents to destabilize the elected iraqi government.

There is no government of a major country that follows all "international laws"


America may be no worse than them, and in fact, gives out way more help and support to other nations than any other nation in the world, but USA is the biggest power and other nations are extremely jealous of it. Their jealousy breeds hate, and that hate breeds snarky attitudes towards anything the USA does, and that snarky attiude breeds the dark side! or something..

 

But yeah I definitely find the USA hate to be silly.

The US has caused far more death and destruction and economic pain whether directly or indirectly to other nations than all those countries combined (post WW2) simply by virtue of being the dominant power for the last 60 years and planning to have a world receptive to it's interests. I think the argument other nations are jealous is a silly one to make. If the US was a benevolant power (which world be a first in the history of mankind) than I doubt there would be all this hate but the fact is the US with it's puppet allies has conducted polices over the last 60 years which have led to mass death and destruction  and at the very least oppression in South East Asia, the Middle East and South America. THAT is what has breed the hate over decades. We are talking literally millions of lives lost.






NiKKoM on 13 December 2011
Kasz216 said:

Why the hell don't these things have self destruct features?  I mean they're pretty high tech stuff that only a handful of countries have.

Weight increase but more likely Money... while the US have all these high tech stuff when they can cut costs they will do it.. I mean when one of the stealth Blackhawks went down when they killed Osama Bin Laden the Seal team had to blow it up.. like they didn't have anything other on their minds.. that they missed a part so everyone could see it is a shame but could have been avoided with as self destruct feature.. actually.. while I wrote that... do they even exist in the real world? don't Self Destruct devices only exist in fiction? James Bond, Call of Duty... seems a bit silly to strap tons of explosives around your submarine that you can blow up with 1 button..



 

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forest-spirit on 13 December 2011

I think the US should be more careful with where they park their toys...



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woopah on 13 December 2011
wfz said:
enrageorange said:

All this America hate is great.

Yes "suprisingly" America is spying on Iran. How is that any different then Russia hacking the USA powergrid in order to have the ability to shut it down at any moment and starting a war just as illegal as the Iraqi one, or China hacking every single US satellite and military facility, or France and the UK initiating the invasion of Libya to secure their oil deposits, or Japan launching a spy satellite who's only purpose can be to perform illegal activities, or Isreal's mass assassinations of basically anyone who disagreed with them, or Pakistan hiding Osama Bin Laden and mastermining terrorist attacks on India, or Iran funding and helping Iraqi insurgents to destabilize the elected iraqi government.

There is no government of a major country that follows all "international laws"


America may be no worse than them, and in fact, gives out way more help and support to other nations than any other nation in the world, but USA is the biggest power and other nations are extremely jealous of it. Their jealousy breeds hate, and that hate breeds snarky attitudes towards anything the USA does, and that snarky attiude breeds the dark side! or something..

 

But yeah I definitely find the USA hate to be silly.





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woopah on 13 December 2011

@ wfz

USA hate has to do with jealousy and all to do with their terrible foreign policy. Yet we have most republican candidates calling Iran a threat! why does no one call them out on this?



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proud soldier of nintopia

 

SamuelRSmith on 13 December 2011
NiKKoM said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Or, you know, there's a chance that the thing is fake: http://the-diplomat.com/flashpoints-blog/2011/12/09/irans-drone-fake/

I don't think we have to worry about a country which is so technologically backwards that it needs to import gasoline, despite having vast oil reserves.

Why would the US ask it back? Why not say it's fake?

http://www.chimericawar.org/latest_news/2011/12/Update___RQ_170_Beast_of_Khandahar

I don't know, they might have their reasons. I'm pretty sure if it was valuable, Obama would be doing more than "asking" for it back...



Kasz216 on 13 December 2011
NiKKoM said:
Kasz216 said:

Why the hell don't these things have self destruct features?  I mean they're pretty high tech stuff that only a handful of countries have.

Weight increase but more likely Money... while the US have all these high tech stuff when they can cut costs they will do it.. I mean when one of the stealth Blackhawks went down when they killed Osama Bin Laden the Seal team had to blow it up.. like they didn't have anything other on their minds.. that they missed a part so everyone could see it is a shame but could have been avoided with as self destruct feature.. actually.. while I wrote that... do they even exist in the real world? don't Self Destruct devices only exist in fiction? James Bond, Call of Duty... seems a bit silly to strap tons of explosives around your submarine that you can blow up with 1 button..


They exist, they put them on Spaceship Boosters for one.  I wouldn't put them on a blackhawk which would carry people.... but an unmanned Drone?



MrBubbles on 13 December 2011
Kasz216 said:
NiKKoM said:
Kasz216 said:

Why the hell don't these things have self destruct features?  I mean they're pretty high tech stuff that only a handful of countries have.

Weight increase but more likely Money... while the US have all these high tech stuff when they can cut costs they will do it.. I mean when one of the stealth Blackhawks went down when they killed Osama Bin Laden the Seal team had to blow it up.. like they didn't have anything other on their minds.. that they missed a part so everyone could see it is a shame but could have been avoided with as self destruct feature.. actually.. while I wrote that... do they even exist in the real world? don't Self Destruct devices only exist in fiction? James Bond, Call of Duty... seems a bit silly to strap tons of explosives around your submarine that you can blow up with 1 button..


They exist, they put them on Spaceship Boosters for one.  I wouldn't put them on a blackhawk which would carry people.... but an unmanned Drone?



probably because it was designed to return to point of origin and land itself if it loses contact with its operator.



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