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I know most people say this and it's crap but if this happened to one of the gay kids in my school, I'd at least tackle the guy beating him up or smash a chair over his back or something. I can't believe nobody did anything. I hope it's because they were in shock and not because they didn't care.



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kowenicki said:
sapphi_snake said:
kowenicki said:
sapphi_snake said:
kowenicki said:

what happens in this state if you bully someone for some other reason other than sexual orientation? 

Obviously you'd get more than a 3 day suspension. It was premeditated violent assault after all.


You know this for a fact?

if true then clearly this punishment is riduculous.

However, if this is in line with other bullying punishments at this school then the fact that it is gay bullying doesnt make it worse than say race bullying or bullying someone because they have a big nose. 

Bullying is just as horrendous for the victim regardless of the motive.

This punishment is ridiculous regardless, considering that the bully commited a criminal offence (physical assault), and also a hate crime (he assaulted the victim for being gay). Bullying is too broad of a term as just teasing isn't illegal and it woudl be pretty hard to punish that. However, if you don't properly punish bullies when they commit actual violent criminal acts, then how do you expect to stop bullying?

I totally agree, I would expel all bullies and make them face criminal charges.

All I am saying is that the motive, or the "reason", for the bullying is irrelevant.  It isnt any worse because it is homophobic bullying.

There are several types of bullying. Not all types are criminal activites (e.g. teasing). However it's absurd that things like physical assault go unpunished.

And bullying someone because of their race/religion/gender/sexual orientation etc. is worse than bullying someone because they're wearing glasses or because they don't like Justin Bieber.



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Andrespetmonkey said:
I know most people say this and it's crap but if this happened to one of the gay kids in my school, I'd at least tackle the guy beating him up or smash a chair over his back or something. I can't believe nobody did anything. I hope it's because they were in shock and not because they didn't care.

Wouldn't be surprised if they were all in on it.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Im sorry but this guy needs to be expelled from school and sent to some kind of shrink. He clearly has issues. I mean he is not just simply bullying this kid, he is kicking the holy crap out of him. And if his only reason for doing so is because the lad is gay, then he needs help. That or he is a closet case himself or has very low self esteem. What he did is downright disgusting and the school should be ashamed of themselves with a 3 day suspension. I would file action against the school for knowingly putting one of their students in harms way. not for the initial incident but for what will inevitably happen again once the suspension is finished. Some human beings just make me sick



What I find disgusting is the satisfaction the fat kid must have had.



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Andrespetmonkey said:
I know most people say this and it's crap but if this happened to one of the gay kids in my school, I'd at least tackle the guy beating him up or smash a chair over his back or something. I can't believe nobody did anything. I hope it's because they were in shock and not because they didn't care.

Which points to another problem. In the first world countries, we are taught to not interfere and call for authority.

If you jump in to help and got hurt, the blame will suddenly be on you and everyone will point out saying it's your stupidity that you engaged.

if you beat the crap out of the aggressor, you'll be sued and/or punished.



sapphi_snake said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
I know most people say this and it's crap but if this happened to one of the gay kids in my school, I'd at least tackle the guy beating him up or smash a chair over his back or something. I can't believe nobody did anything. I hope it's because they were in shock and not because they didn't care.

Wouldn't be surprised if they were all in on it.

That would be fucking pathetic. I mean, in my school, there is a gay kid, before he ws openly gay he'd constantly get made fun of, mostly behind his back and usually never anything too bad, but he'd never get beat up or have anything violent happen to him. Infact when he came out and became openly gay it all stopped, everyone just respected his bravery for being open. And my school is like 30% muslim and another 30% are in street "gangs". It's incredibly homophobic. It's changing now though. So this is just shocking to me.



To be honest though, I don't even really blame the fat kid. It's those awful parents that popped him out.



Galaki said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
I know most people say this and it's crap but if this happened to one of the gay kids in my school, I'd at least tackle the guy beating him up or smash a chair over his back or something. I can't believe nobody did anything. I hope it's because they were in shock and not because they didn't care.

Which points to another problem. In the first world countries, we are taught to not interfere and call for authority.

If you jump in to help and got hurt, the blame will suddenly be on you and everyone will point out saying it's your stupidity that you engaged.

if you beat the crap out of the aggressor, you'll be sued and/or punished.

True, but I'm sure a lot of the reason why they didn't interfere is because that guy was massive and they were in shock  at the sight of it. I mean, I SAY that I'd do something, and I'm pretty confident that I would, but when you're in the moment it's probably not that easy. 



sapphi_snake said:
kowenicki said:
sapphi_snake said:
kowenicki said:
sapphi_snake said:
kowenicki said:

what happens in this state if you bully someone for some other reason other than sexual orientation? 

Obviously you'd get more than a 3 day suspension. It was premeditated violent assault after all.


You know this for a fact?

if true then clearly this punishment is riduculous.

However, if this is in line with other bullying punishments at this school then the fact that it is gay bullying doesnt make it worse than say race bullying or bullying someone because they have a big nose. 

Bullying is just as horrendous for the victim regardless of the motive.

This punishment is ridiculous regardless, considering that the bully commited a criminal offence (physical assault), and also a hate crime (he assaulted the victim for being gay). Bullying is too broad of a term as just teasing isn't illegal and it woudl be pretty hard to punish that. However, if you don't properly punish bullies when they commit actual violent criminal acts, then how do you expect to stop bullying?

I totally agree, I would expel all bullies and make them face criminal charges.

All I am saying is that the motive, or the "reason", for the bullying is irrelevant.  It isnt any worse because it is homophobic bullying.

There are several types of bullying. Not all types are criminal activites (e.g. teasing). However it's absurd that things like physical assault go unpunished.

And bullying someone because of their race/religion/gender/sexual orientation etc. is worse than bullying someone because they're wearing glasses or because they don't like Justin Bieber.

And why would that be the case ?

Is someone who got bullied for watching wrong cartoons less of a victim that someone being bullied for being gay ?



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