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XBox 250G bundle (incl. 2-3 games) $199 - $199

XBox 250G Kinect bundle (Box, Kinect, 3 games, 3month free Live) $289 - $259

Where could I buy these? Or are you just mixing up €,$ and GBP? Where can I get the Holiday Bundle?



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drkohler said:
kowenicki said:

A little push in Europe by way of a price cut and this would have happened.

Could you change the record, please? It gets really tireome that every post of yours ends with "pricecut"

Here is a little info about "pricecuts" - looking at prices (which include all store margins and taxes, start of December prices - current prices):

PS3 160G $229 - $259

PS3 320G Move bundle $289 - $329

PS3 320G Plain Silver box $333

XBox 250G bundle (incl. 2-3 games) $199 - $199

XBox 250G Kinect bundle (Box, Kinect, 3 games, 3month free Live) $289 - $259

Standalone Kinect bundle $139 - $99

As you can see, PS3 prices actually INcreased, while XBox stuff is sold at a (considerable) loss to MS. No surprise that more XBoxes are sold than PS3s currently over here.

1st off no doubt MS has been working more with retailers in the US giving them incentives to promote and the 360.
2nd Kowenicki was referring to Europe anyway.
3rd Where did you get this information. Although the 360 has been far more promoted the PS3 has had discounts as well and I cant recall anywhere that the PS3 160GB had its price raised to $259.99.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

drkohler said:
kowenicki said:

A little push in Europe by way of a price cut and this would have happened.

Could you change the record, please? It gets really tireome that every post of yours ends with "pricecut"

Here is a little info about "pricecuts" - looking at prices (which include all store margins and taxes, start of December prices - current prices):

PS3 160G $229 - $259

PS3 320G Move bundle $289 - $329

PS3 320G Plain Silver box $333

XBox 250G bundle (incl. 2-3 games) $199 - $199

XBox 250G Kinect bundle (Box, Kinect, 3 games, 3month free Live) $289 - $259

Standalone Kinect bundle $139 - $99

As you can see, PS3 prices actually INcreased, while XBox stuff is sold at a (considerable) loss to MS. No surprise that more XBoxes are sold than PS3s currently over here.

And I was talking about Europe so this post doesn't have one ounce of relevance...thanks for your input.



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Funny someone claiming MS sells it's hardware at a considerable loss, seeing how for the past 2 years they've had a killer 8 quarters of revenue/profit.



kowenicki said:

A little push in Europe by way of a price cut and this would have happened.

There are some good deals for x360 in uk (amazon) and MS had a small cut the price too (matte 250GB model which is now cheaper than the PS3 160GB in germany and uk and maybe in other europe countries).

I think there will be some big adjustments for Dec 2011. Either VGChartz underestimated Xbox deals/Kinect boost in europe and X360 wins 2011 or they underestimated PS3 price cut and PS3 wins 2011.



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Millenium said:
Funny someone claiming MS sells it's hardware at a considerable loss, seeing how for the past 2 years they've had a killer 8 quarters of revenue/profit.


Unreal... MS has the most profitable hardware of all rght now... no question.



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kowenicki said:
Millenium said:
Funny someone claiming MS sells it's hardware at a considerable loss, seeing how for the past 2 years they've had a killer 8 quarters of revenue/profit.


Unreal... MS has the most profitable hardware of all rght now... no question.


Pretty much, whilst I don't know Nintendo's current standing since 3ds launched, I just took a look back at the old chart, and from the last update we have,

2008-2011:

  • Microsoft's EED profited 2.598 Billion
  • Sony's Divison lost 1.045 Billion
  • Nintendo's Division profited ~13. 3 Billion

This is off course old data, and given recent events, I don't see things going up for Sony, and I see things going down for Nintendo, for various reasons, including R&D, console/handheld launches & nature disasters. As for Microsoft, realistically, I think their next sales update could be their biggest profit since the Xbox brand launched (obviously 2001-2007 was all losses)



update



 

WW360 DEC 10TH- 851,678

WWPS3 DEC 10TH- 704,669

Difference: +147,009 for Xbox 360

 

WW360 DEC 17thTH- 766,126

WWPS3 DEC 17TH- 343,886

Difference: +422,240 for Xbox 360

 

Edited.

 



SlipperyMooseCakes said:

 

WW360 DEC 10TH- 851,678

WWPS3 DEC 10TH- 704,669

Difference: +147,009 for Xbox 360

 

WW360 DEC 20TH- 766,126

WWPS3 DEC 20TH- 343,886

Difference: +422,240 for Xbox 360

 

As of Dec 3rd the gap between the Xbox and PS3 was +806,000 in the PS3's favor.

147,009 + 422,240 = 569,249 more 360's sold in the past two weeks.

Which means, 806,000 - 569,249 = 236,751 is the current difference of consoles sold in the PS3's favor. There are still 11 days of sales left in the month to be calculated.

 

WW for the 20th is not up yet, so your gap numbers are a little fudged..