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Forums - Sony Discussion - PS3 10% Ahead of 360 This Year Worldwide, 'Strong Contender' to Take Second Place

"However, when we measure what we call active installed base or number of systems in use we forecast that the PS3 will reach the Xbox 360 this year."

 

Um ps3 already surpassed 360 in active install base, http://techhall.wordpress.com/2010/03/17/ps3-has-larger-install-base-than-360/



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kowenicki said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
Shitstorm incoming.

If MS release the next Xbox in 2013 I also think it is possible that PS3 will go ahead. But it could go either way, depending on MS and Sony's movements.


i dont see why.

if you read all of the analysis shown and not just the headline (which is a very curious one... "contender"?  that analysist is an idiot and needs English lessons) its all very balanced and actually debunks the replacement 360's bollocks we always hear particularly in these forums.

analysist

English lessons



Jay520 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Jay520 said:

PS3 has a good shot at first place IMO. 

2011: 60m
2012: 78m
2013: 93m
2014: 105m
with a few extra mil for the next few years

It really depends on when the Wii U releases. 

You're quite the optimist.


I like to consider myself a realist. $199 PS3, AGENT, FFv13, etc. 2012 going to be MASSIVE. 18million consoles sold MINUMUM.


If you were a realist youd realize that after 5 years the core gamers allready made their console choices.

Agent is a new IP and in the late game of the gen new IPs dont make a big splash compared to when the gen is fresh

All final fantasy fans allready bought a console to play FF13.......

$199 is speculative but possible. Yet your counting out a Wii price drop, 360 price drops (the 199 360 can very well go lower), not to mention the buzz around the Wii U and the unveiling of the next Xbox to steal the thunder of PS3.....making it look outdated by comparison. 

As a realist, only the lower price would stir sales but like I said, there are other factors to consider. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Well just look at how MS does busines this gen.

They save all their marketing $$$$$ for the holidays.

Gears of War 3 is going to be massive......way bigger then Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, or any PS3 exclusive this fall. Offcourse I mean sales wise.

Look at the preorders for multiplats like COD (biggest game of the year sales wise) and Battlefield 3.......all massively favouring the 360.

Its been 3.......3 years since an official price drop. One must happen this year if they wanna offset Japan with superior sales in NA and about even sales in Europe. Drop Kinect by $50, include their 2 game bundle liek they do every year.

Were in the eye of the storm people......and MS is very good this year at concealing their plans for the fall.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

padib said:

Doesn't change the fact that he mentioned huge potential hits to the casual which, if the Wii is any indication of it, could propel the 360 high this holiday in the US as he mentioned. The only thing blocking that imo is Wii as usual, the only other true casual contender in the market. Other thing blocking MS as always is anti-american or xenophobic sentiment in the EU (safe britain) and Japan regions.


Doesn't change the facts that there where flaws in his statement, which I was addressing.



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padib said:
But if that's not major, anyways, what is? The Last Guardian, ICO & SOtC remakes, but what else? Those are big IPs he mentioned.


Major is something like Uncharted, God of War, Gran Turismo, etc. Games that can cross 4 - 5million and more

Not games that barely cross 500k FW with legs too low to make up for it.



This Agent?

http://www.gametrailers.com/episode/bonusround/505?ch=2



padib said:

Fair enough, but those already came out this year or late last. How much more can they make by end of war?

1 Uncharted coming out November, in your favor. How many more GT's? How many more GoW's by war end?
I don't think your point is a strong one as compared to his, that's why I mentioned his second, stronger point.


I'm not trying to take a stand on any war. I personally don't think it's possible to predict anyway, but when I see flaws in someone's post, then I will point them out. I was just pointing out the flaws in the first sentence of his post.



sales2099 said:
Well just look at how MS does busines this gen.

They save all their marketing $$$$$ for the holidays.

Gears of War 3 is going to be massive......way bigger then Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, or any PS3 exclusive this fall. Offcourse I mean sales wise.

Look at the preorders for multiplats like COD (biggest game of the year sales wise) and Battlefield 3.......all massively favouring the 360.

Its been 3.......3 years since an official price drop. One must happen this year if they wanna offset Japan with superior sales in NA and about even sales in Europe. Drop Kinect by $50, include their 2 game bundle liek they do every year.

Were in the eye of the storm people......and MS is very good this year at concealing their plans for the fall.

lol MS had a lot of games last year (for MS) as well as a massive boost from the intial "wow" of kinect, which has almost completely faded and ps3 had a bad year as far as games, people forget that even games released earlier in the year sell consoles during the holidays, last year Sony was about on par with MS for games (which is bad for Sony) and this year they have tons of games, and last year holidays despite MS being in the clearly better position Sony still managed to ship just as much (only because 360 had shortages and ps3 was a little overstocked) this year MS has less games, less of a kinect factor, and I'm pretty sure Sony will benefit more from a price drop, I just don't see how 360 can outsell ps3 this year even with MS advertising tons on big name games (which they did last year)



Jay520 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

You realize that most people who are interested in those games already have a PS3.

Naw, there are still millions of gamers (specificall 360-only) that have yet to get a PS3.

Once AGENT releases, I expect it to be bigger than GTA. Be ready for it to sell 10 - 25million. You heard it here first. The gap in America will shrink down to nothing within two months of release. N.O.W_B.E.L.I.E.V.E

Dude what are you talking about?......talk about being in a dream world! You suspect AGENT will be bigger than GTA?? Based on what?.....oh it must be based on the influx of information we have about the game right? Because we know nothing about it.

Or are you thinking that just because it is PS3 exclusive?...which by the way,might not be the case anymore. Now believe that



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