@damkira
Yes, we all know about the Israeli-Arab conflict. And we know the Muslim world is not exactly keen on Israel being the only nuclear power in the region. But the recent nuclear overtures from countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and even Turkey are not due to Israeli aggression, nor were they in response to a potential war between Israel and Iran. They arose when the possibility of a nuclear Iran became more real. While those countries hate Israel, they are also interested in maintaining a balance of power in the region. Make no mistake about it, none of those would stand for being without nukes if Iran developed their own.
What the heck are you talking about enrichment for? Of course they are not enriching anything. That’s why I said they had just started to TALKING about it more seriously. But it does demonstrate the calculus countries will go through when they are up against the military build up of a neighbor. And that is my point. The vacuum the US leaves behind in any quarter of the world has consequences. Don’t sound so certain you have it all figured out because your approach seems rather 2-dimensional.
Of course you don’t think you are being irrational. If you thought so we should hope your rhetoric would be less apocalyptic. We’ll just need to agree to disagree about Bush. I can give you a list of frustrations I have with the man, but you are just too far over the top. Frankly, it’s almost juvenile. It’s as if you’ve been sucked into some kind of cult that has warped any sense of proportion. Look, I get it. You’ve got a narrative in place and everything you see, hear or read will be interpreted through the lens of that narrative.
Your logic on Pakistan is rich. You take the time to point out that neither the military dictatorship or the Islamic fundamentalists are good guys for the US to be dealing with. Not only that, but they are a greater threat than Iran, not that you would advocate doing anything about them. So while we remain at this tortured state of indecision, we might as well forgo any help they may offer in clearing out terror camps? I really don’t get it.
And of course many in the Islamic world see the US as doing exactly what bin Laden accuses the US of doing. Because he has this uncanny ability to add whatever the US happens to be doing to the ever growing list of unforgiveable grievances. I’m really not partial to the US dancing to whatever tune bin Laden happens to be playing. I doubt the US could win any PR game anyway. So why play it?
I consider any attack on US citizens, embassies or properties to be an attack on the US. Yes, I know OKC and the Olympics were not initiated by Islamic extremists. Geez, give me some credit.
Some semblance of a stable democracy would be a measure of success in Iraq. But no “discernable progress”? Again, your inability to admit that there has been a stunning turn around in Iraq over the last 6 months is an example of how little objectivity you bring to this. It’s so obvious that some of the war’s most vocal critics begrudgingly admit to it (only to then run and hide, waiting (praying?) for the next negative headline to come out so that they can jump back up and start beating Bush over the head with it). I find it telling that you can’t say whether you would hope for the US to be victorious (by whatever measure).
So it seems your thoughts on the matter are sealed. Anything that runs contrary to your story rolls away like water off a ducks back. In a way, a form of fundamentalism.