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goforgold said:
Euphoria14 said:
goforgold said:

it was......and it fucking sucked, so because their version is hacked I have to accept the fact that mines is now to??? more FAIL logic.

you know people actaully like the comfort that they can play a game online and not have to worry about some lowlife douchbag ruining the experience by cheating, I got that on ps3.....no anymore. I could careless 360 fans had to deal with a hacked version, that don't make my situation better,

I was shot and that sucks, but so was this other guy it's ok I guess -__-

and about the music indusrty......REALLY, imagine if just one percent of the people who pirate music actually brought it legally, that industry revenue would be 10 fold what it is now.

You know that most prefer to play COD on the 360?

and that matter to me because.......


Just showing that it does not result in lower sales or gaming experience according to the masses.

Just sticking to the conversation.



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I too have a question: When exactly did Geohot start to attempt hacking the PS3? A rough timeframe is also okay.



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RolStoppable said:

I too have a question: When exactly did Geohot start to attempt hacking the PS3? A rough timeframe is also okay.


First word we got was right before Slim launch and I after word that Linux was removed from all future revisions.



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I am not informed enough to debate whether these countries are big enough to affect the games industry or not, but I think you people need to realise that outside of the US and to lesser extent UK and Australia, piracy is a huge problem. Almost no one will buy original games due to the price once they have an option.

And also the creators' intention/motivation is irrelevant and irresponsible if all this hacking stuff turns out to be a big  problem because they must have seen it coming.



 

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Just showing that it does not result in lower sales or gaming experience according to the masses.

Just sticking to the conversation.

You say you aren't defending piracy, but that sure doesn't look like that. You make piracy look so small to make it look like a non problem when it's not. Piracy hurts, and sometimes a lot. Just because Black Ops got pirated over 5 million times and is still successful doesn't mean piracy doesn't hurt the business.



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stopstopp said:
Euphoria14 said:
 


Just showing that it does not result in lower sales or gaming experience according to the masses.

Just sticking to the conversation.

You say you aren't defending piracy, but that sure doesn't look like that. You make piracy look so small to make it look like a non problem when it's not. Piracy hurts, and sometimes a lot. Just because Black Ops got pirated over 5 million times and is still successful doesn't mean piracy doesn't hurt the business.

It isn't that I am defending piracy, I am just giving the opposite side of the argument for people to consider. Playing devil's advocate.

Nobody here can prove at all that piracy results in lost sales. No way to prove that a pirate would have purchased the title in the first place.

There is a reason why piracy does not fall under the label of theft.



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Euphoria14 said:
stopstopp said:
Euphoria14 said:
 


Just showing that it does not result in lower sales or gaming experience according to the masses.

Just sticking to the conversation.

You say you aren't defending piracy, but that sure doesn't look like that. You make piracy look so small to make it look like a non problem when it's not. Piracy hurts, and sometimes a lot. Just because Black Ops got pirated over 5 million times and is still successful doesn't mean piracy doesn't hurt the business.

It isn't that I am defending piracy, I am just giving the opposite side of the argument for people to consider. Playing devil's advocate.

Nobody here can prove at all that piracy results in lost sales. No way to prove that a pirate would have purchased the title in the first place.

There is a reason why piracy does not fall under the label of theft.

Oh yes there is... here where i live before teh "jailbreak" there was a striving community of ps3 gamers. Due to the prices of the games, we would usually buy the games that we wanted to play the most. after having finished the game and played it to death, we'd go out and sell em to each other.

For example, I bought RE5, guy B bought DAO, and guy C bought Folklore. After finishing our games we'd sell our games at a much lower price. I'd buy guy C's folklore, He'd buy Guy DB's DOA, while buy B bought my RE5. It was a great system and I got to play a lot of games that i wanted to play without having to buy them at full price.

Nowadays, I barely see people posting their old games for sale. There are people who i regularly see posting thier old games for sale. But now, I've seen more than half these people disappear.

So, what happend, did they just all stop buying games? did they all just suddenly gave up playing their PS3s?

They got their PS3's jailbreaked thats what.  Now, instead of a thriving community of ps3 gamesrs, we now have a thriving community of jackasses who sell "jailbreaked PS3s jailbreak dongle thingy" with "free 10 games saved in THE HDD" and not jsut PSN games but games like GOW3, Uncharted2, Tekken6, and other "disc based games".

We also now have a bunch of bastards selling "game saves" to your HDD at $2 a pop per game...

Finally, the sad thing is, there are some of these sellers who I recognize who used to  sell sell their used games. Now, they "game saves"... SOB!!!

So, yes, there ARE people who, given no other option, would buy the game. But since they can now pirate it, they no longer buy games as they now have a "ULTRA CHEAP" alternative.