It's performed quite well, a good deal ahead of many predictions overall. Of course people will say the holiday played an essential role, which is partially the case. Yes, the holiday push kept the awareness flowing, and post-release marketing surely hit the spot. But on the flipside, holidays or not, an undesired product is an undesired product. If the game wasn't a hot item (something many want), it would not sell much. In fact, seems like the game has gone through quite the moving of the goalposts lately:

- Some said the few lower-than-80 reviews would hurt it.

- Some said it's much lower userbase would hurt it.

- Some said the market is too interested in the FPS, thus that would hurt it.

- Some now even put it next to Modern Warfare 2 and/or Black Ops to judge it's sales potential.

One thing can't be denied, it did perform much lower than many predictions in Japan, the result was disappointing. But really, GT is still huge, and not much could change that. If it wasn't hailed as the best racing sim on consoles (what it truly set out to do), then I could understand the doubt. But with it being (according to many - including the same reviews people thought would seal the deal in a negative way) the complete opposite, I think it will continue to sell strong. It's looking at ending 2010 just a tad shy of 5 million (4.8-4.9mill is my guess).

A franchise that sells 5 million in a month won't just suddenly die off and sell just 6 or 7 million in it's entire life. The game is looking at at least 8-9mill lifetime, but I continue to support the original prediction of 10 million.

Was there really any need to bring Forza into this?

of course. it was the main competition and the most frequently mentioned "new king of racing". it has to be put back into its place.

This warranted a thread? Really? I never did doubt that GT5 will be the best PS3 exclusive, but I still think it'll have a hard time outselling MW2. As someone had pointed out, this is still a holiday season.. A fair comparison to GT4 would be after both have experienced a year of retail, or at least 10-15 weeks. Seriously, some people jump gun too soon.

Well said.

He's baiting. And what makes it worse? Someone will be stupid enough to take the bait and turn this thread to shitstorm.

How do I know he's baiting? The mention of Forza sales mixed with "Eat that."

Well said.

How do you know he's baiting?  

You took the bait yourself. XD

In any case, people were indeed talking shit about the game prior to its release.  It's only fair to put the cold hard facts in their face, to show how ignorant their trolling was.

of course. it was the main competition and the most frequently mentioned "new king of racing". it has to be put back into its place.

You should go make another Kinect thread, right? How many have you made this month along 10, 20, yet you think one GT5 success thread is too much.