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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - 2011 line up ultimately all about Kinect? - Stephen McGill

Seece on 27 December 2010
Smidlee said:
Seece said:
Euphoria14 said:

So what have we learned today?

#1.) If you post anything negative it makes you a hater. Negative news should always be ignored.

#2.) If you don't like Kinect it makes you a hater who doesn't own a 360. All 360 owners love Kinect.

 

I learned a lot today. Merry Christmas.

Not at all, it always amuses me how pro PS3/fans always post negative news as if they're concerned though ^^


So you think the OP is negative news? Interesting.

 Now if the quote from the OP :

"...They're [already] buying it, but we've got a line-up of Kinect games that will blow people away."

 is referring to there is a bomb planted in every Kinect ready to go off next year I can see how this is negative news.

I don't think it's negative, there are 2 sides to a coin though.



 

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Alby_da_Wolf on 28 December 2010

[sorry, double post, I'll add this answer to a reply instead]



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Alby_da_Wolf on 28 December 2010
NotStan said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

From some time back I had the feeling that Micro wanted Kinect to be a hit so that they could have a platform with its own properties that could hardly be imitated by the other consoles. This way they would produce software that by its own nature would force exclusivity and would save them the trouble of buying time exclusives and so forth. I want Natal to be a hit so that this becomes Micro's focus, as motion has been Nintendo's.


I personally don't. The amount of shovelware games I've seen from Wii with the exceptional titles few and inbetween(This holiday season exception), if Kinect becomes the primary focus, the majority of investment that could have gone into securing first party studious such as 343 industries, Epic etc etc will instead go into forming studious primarily for Kinect, although I agree that by creating a new and innovative product they can now build their studios from ground up and invest alot less, but it would have been nice to see some more new first party IP's next year, fully exclusive, none of that "wait a year" crap.

But personal tastes and wishes apart, maybe this news means (as a side-effect or maybe because of it) that MS is abandoning its previous strategy of attacking the console in 3rd place and is switching to a more ambitious one of attacking the market leader. Obviously another side-effect would be that Sony and PC would gain more room in the hardcore segment. This latter side-effect is avoidable only if investments in hardcore development aren't reduced in any way and totally new funds, not subtracted from hardcore, are allocated for Kinect development. Obviously synergies are possible too, with Kinect use in hardcore games.

But wasn't all this largely predictable even before Kinect? Clear since MS chose to adopt rickety, big-headed avatars for the online community that look quite like Nintendo Miis?



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW!   


Alby_da_Wolf on 05 January 2011

It's been revealed how Forza 4 will use Kinect! When your car will have a breakdown, you'll be able to use it to: push it, change a wheel, hitchhike, wave your arms desperately to avoid being run over by other cars. When your car will run fine, Kinect will still have interesting uses: to pick your virtual nose and/or make rude gestures to other drivers.

Source: a high MS exec that wishes to remain anonymous.



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW!   


SpartenOmega117 on 05 January 2011

It is sort of negative news for me. I still don't see how kinect will be integrated in the core gaming arket to the point that it will just look cheesy. Anyone have examples?



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homer on 05 January 2011
Seece said:
mantlepiecek said:

Considering the last two years hardly bought anything to the plate, I would be hardly surprised if 360 didn't get any non-kinect exclusive other than Gears of war 3 and forza 4. We might see another Halo though, its there every year, Halo 3 Halo wars ODST Reach blah blah blah(where blah stands for future halo games)

Crackdown 2, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake, Fable III, Halo: Reach and Mass Effect 2.

Granted some are 3rd party and going multi (ME2), but they did put effort in this year.

Kingdoms and XCOm are already coming along with Forza 4 and Gears 3, a possible Halo remake, and something else, would be acceptable for 360 in 2011.

360 core exclusives titles will never be the same amount as PS3 given how many studios Sony have.


Splinter Cell,Fable 3, Xcom, ME2 are not exclusives. Crackdown 2 was also supposedly a step back from the original, but I have yet to play it, so I do not know if that statement has any substance. Funny how you mention a game not even announced yet, but I guess that is ok seeing as it is heavily rumored, but then again I am still waiting for pikmin 3 and Starhawk. Multiplats alone would probably be sufficient for 360 gamers, but it still is good to have an abundance of exclusive games to brag about to other people who would rather just play games and have fun, than argue over the superiority of your favorite console. At least I enjoy it.



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