Lucas-Rio said:
Kantor said:
Lucas-Rio said:
Who said you can't? You and that drunk guy only. There is not law that forbib that. You are really bitching because the movie is not following the same model than most of the other movies? But seriously, who care? I liked this movie a lot, it was entertaining and introduced everything we needed.
Some things were not needed like your gas scene or were easily given like Palpatine overthrowing the boss of the galaxy so easily but that's in all movies. Why Yoda would have put Qui Gon in jail? For protecting himself from peoplke trying to kill them at the trade federation? From defending himself against Darth Maul?
They were sent there to try to confirm what they thought and got it. That's all. There is nothing bad about it.
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Rubang and "the drunk guy" are bitching because it's a terrible movie, and suggesting just a few of hundreds or perhaps thousands of ways in which it could have been good. It's hard to imagine Phantom Menace being very much worse than it is now.
Granted, all movies have inconsistencies, most probably including the original trilogy. But in very few movies are they this commonplace, and generally, if the movie itself is entertaining, nobody bothers to look for them.
On the sending of the Jedi specifically:
- Why would the Republic send ancient mystical warriors with no formal allegiance to the Senate, in place of actual diplomats?
- If they wanted to spy, couldn't they have used their untold trillions of credits to train a few people in actual espionage and have them join the Federation? Why didn't they do this to begin with?
- Why would the Trade Federation try to kill said ancient mystical warriors?
- What, exactly, did Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan hope to achieve? Did they really expect that a race of green aliens with an enormous army would sit down and have a calm conversation about taxes with some "midichlorian"-infested maverick and his unusually mature and sensible sidekick?
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1) Because the Jedi are better than the diplomats? Wise, strong, can influence other people, can fight and defend themselves, are respected and recognised? This was THEIR role to act for the peace in this republic.
2) They would be inferior in every way to the Jedis .
3) Trade Federation is completely manipulated by Sidious.
4) They had to discover what exactly was going on and had to confirm what happenned. They could also rescue Padme.
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I'm pretty sure jedis are NEVER supposed to use the force to influence people for personal or political gain. How often do they use them in the original trilogy? "These aren't the droids you're looking for." Yeah that was on a storm trooper, a mindless evil clone. And it was used to hide from the enemies and stay safe.
In episode 1, Qui-Gon is using them all over the place, even on allies like the Gungan king, and on Watto, for no fucking reason. It's never neccesary in the plot, but Lucas put it in there as fanservice. "Hey people liked the jedi mind tricks in A New Hope, let's put those EVERYWHERE." If the film was consistent with the rest of the universe, he'd be in jail instead of running around blowing shit up for no reason.
That was his whole philosophy. "Hey people liked Boba Fett, because he was badass and we used him sparingly in a few key badass scenes. Let's make his father just like him, and put him everywhere. Hey people liked lightsabers, let's have A DOUBLE LIGHT SABER oh shit dudes. No wait, robots with DOUBLE SPINNING LIGHT SABERS!"
I'm honestly surprised he didn't make a giant talking Tie Fighter, or some sort of Super Duper Death Star.
