I thought we get our news on comedy channel?
Kasz216 said:
Chilling precedent on what? To qualify to be a whisleblower and still protect your job you have to be blow the whistle on something illegal. What's wrong with that? Why would you even want to work for someone who was forcing you to lie? I mean, did you read the actual reasoning for the judgement... or are you still talking of the news from the site that complains Kellog's serial has metal in it. http://www.2dca.org/opinions/Opinion_Pages/Opinion_Page_2003/February/February 14, 2003/2D01-529.pdf IS the actual brief.
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Yes, I did read the actual brief.
Since they are saying that distorting the news is not "illegal", then you cannot be granted whistleblower protection. So now anyone that blows the whistle on a false and/or misleading news report is not protected against being fired. So good luck finding anyone in the future that is willing to stand up to it's employer.
And you wouldn't want to work for someone that makes you lie. But if you have a family, a mortgage, and other financial obligations, it's not always possible to just up and leave a job. You should not be able to be fired for telling the truth, period.
| kitler53 said: msnbc is the fox news of the left...biased, inaccurate, and complete crap. |
Yeah, only fox news has more viewers than all other news networks combined.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/cable-news/cable-news-daily-ratings
people need to understand the difference between regular news shows and opinion driven shows. I watch foxnews for the regular news shows,but I'm not to fond of the opinion driven shows. I think glenn beck is a dam nut job and I can't stand hannity because all he does is bash the obama administration for an hour. The factor seems to be somewhat more reasonable. Msnbc is okay,but I don't like kieth olberman and rachel madow and chris mathews does nothing but scream at people for an hour. So you have to understand the difference between regular news shows and obvious bias/opinion driven shows. lol
I watch The YoungTurks on youtube. IMHO, it gives me news straight and simple most of the time, I agree with him/them.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheYoungTurks
wow, fox news is terrible. Actually i watch it sometimes, but by no means do i trust it on anything that might fit their agenda. MSNBC is biased too, i wouldn't say to the same extent as fox news, even though both have their nutcases. Keith Olberman is bad, Chris Matthews is kinda bad, but Glenn Beck takes the cake as the biggest idiot on TV.
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| Kasz216 said: Also... there is a very simple reason why Fox News is the most trusted cable news source in the country.
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All cable news broadcasters are right wing by the standards of most other western nations.
Tease.
Squilliam said:
All cable news broadcasters are right wing by the standards of most other western nations. |
People keep saying that... but it's not really true. The US is actually pretty left wing in a lot of areas other people countries aren't. Since other countries don't view those areas as "as important" america gets labeled rightwing. It's pure bias based soley on what someone thinks is important. It's like a friend of mine who thinks he's a liberal democrat when he's anti gay, thinks world war 3 will be with the middle east and believes in another of what i'd call crackpot far rightwing positions. The difference is... he's for a few minor leftwing things he finds VERY important, like the legalization of Marijuana. The few issues he cares about greatly trumps the many other issues.
Really i'd say MSNBC greatly trumps any "left wing" British newscasters i've seen. Though I haven't seen many newscasts outside of them.
Regardless, not really important to the topic at hand... since it's a poll of americans. Not the world.
I mean, the numbers tell you alot. They are percentage based afterall... you had to pick one of the three.
49 39 12 = 100.
49% For Fox News and 51% split between the two left wing stations. I mean, what other conclusion is there to draw?
Asking which news station you trust the most is kinda like asking which Drug Dealer you trust the most.
The one who's agenda is most clearly known.
whatever said:
Yes, I did read the actual brief. Since they are saying that distorting the news is not "illegal", then you cannot be granted whistleblower protection. So now anyone that blows the whistle on a false and/or misleading news report is not protected against being fired. So good luck finding anyone in the future that is willing to stand up to it's employer. And you wouldn't want to work for someone that makes you lie. But if you have a family, a mortgage, and other financial obligations, it's not always possible to just up and leave a job. You should not be able to be fired for telling the truth, period. |
It's not possible to leave a job as a newsreporter if someone is forcing you to lie? Seriously?
That's the kind of thing that's going to GREATLY improve your hireability if your vindicated.
And once again... they aren't saying distorting the news isn't illegal.
They are saying that distorting the news is not covered by the whistleblower protection law.
If you are found willfully distorting the news the FCC will fine you heavily and possibly take away your broadcasting rights.
I mean, maybe you aren't familiar with what a Whistleblower protection law is. It's a law, that's done state by state to protect people who report the illegal activities of their employers. Many states have no Whistleblower laws at all.
Plenty of people still do blow the whistle on their bosses.
It has nothing to do with the actual legality of what a company is doing.
Kasz216 said:
People keep saying that... but it's not really true. The US is actually pretty left wing in a lot of areas other people countries aren't. Since other countries don't view those areas as "as important" america gets labeled rightwing. It's pure bias based soley on what someone thinks is important. It's like a friend of mine who thinks he's a liberal democrat when he's anti gay, thinks world war 3 will be with the middle east and believes in another of what i'd call crackpot far rightwing positions. The difference is... he's for a few minor leftwing things he finds VERY important, like the legalization of Marijuana. The few issues he cares about greatly trumps the many other issues.
Regardless, not really important to the topic at hand... since it's a poll of americans. Not the world. I mean, the numbers tell you alot. They are percentage based afterall... you had to pick one of the three. 49 39 12 = 100. 49% For Fox News and 51% split between the two left wing stations. I mean, what other conclusion is there to draw?
Asking which news station you trust the most is kinda like asking which Drug Dealer you trust the most. The one who's agenda is most clearly known. |
The survey wasn't a "pick one of three", it also included NBC, CBS, and ABC (35%, 32%, and 31%). So your math, while conveniently adding up to 100, doesn't mean anything.
CNN is definitely as center as it gets. I mean, they gave Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs their starts. Fox is way right and MSNBC is way left.
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