oh, and since i'm of german decent...i apoligize for that too.

I am planning to go to Iran next summer, I hope this idiot doens't do anything stupid...

Im not racist, I stand next african, Indonesians, Malay, pakistanis, Indian's, and pray with them. Every colour under the sun and I love them like brothers. Im just saying it like it is.

No the 20 million was Russian civilians, you have the hysteric reaction to mention of "jews " in any bad light. This was another reason they hijack the holocaust for them self apart from the money. They have become a protected species, they cannot be criticised for anything, because people have been conditioned to feel sympathy for them. The result is irrational defense of them and failure to see anything they do in a bad light. Not surprising since they own most media, all off Hollywood (very strong tools they use to condition the masses thinking) not to mention world banking and finance.

The leader of Malaysia said as much to the UN in front of the whole world, I para phrase, "The world is run by jews by proxy. How is that a people that a fraction of 1% of the population have such control over the world? (banking, world diamond trade etc) He is a educated man and world leader, not some backwards red neck.

The whole thing comes back to the jews being the only reason america has a intrest in the middle east is to protect them because the jews have such a powerful lobby group in the usa. Iraq was a threat to the jews, usa invades, Iran wants to wipe israel of the map, usa wants to goto war with them. How come north Korea never got invaded, because they never threaten the jews.

The jews would rather americans die for them than fight themself. So the poorest americans are shipped of to fight in Iraq. (for wmd lol)

 There is no other reason to attack Iran presently, that's why I think so.  Whoever controls the middle east 10-15 years from now will have immense power.

Remember the Carter doctrine? Should the U.S be in need, they're to go out in the world and take the resources by force should they have to. This was abolished after Carter, but Bush reopened it when he was instated. Sometime after, massive attacks on some of the most oil-enriched soil on earth occurred, and one has to wonder... You have to at least agree that it seems suspicious, right?

I've no reason to believe the Bush administration does this out of the kindness of their hearts, they WILL require some recuperation after the tremendous cost of this recent war. And look at the U.S economy and how its plummeted since Bush strode into the picture, he certainly does not wish any good on his own people.

I'm not saying that my word is law and that Bush is Satan (frankly, he's too dumb for that) and that the U.S is evil personified. But this is generally how we view things here in the nordic countries, especially here in Norway where our politicians are involved in almost every peace treaty or operation in the world! 

Yeah you are right, but sometimes arguing doesn't help, therefore I reported him and said what I think he is.

@kitler53: lol, you really seem to have bad luck in political issues

@misteromar: the arguments you are using are exactly the same Nazis used, that's all I want to add.

But the thread has been deruled lately, we should go back to the war on iran issue I think. I want to make clear that I am against a war there. I already stated that forcing a country to use democracy just makes the danger grow that extremists will take the power because democratic systems are not stable if they are not widely accepted. That is exactly how Hitler gained power.
Pro-activ attacks are only ok if there is a real danger for other countries or if for example lots of Iranis would ask for help. At the current situation in the world, no middle-east country is a real danger to the world, so no war there can't be apologised imo. The war in afghanistan, and the war in Iraq were huge mistakes. What makes the situation even worse is that the reason for those wars is the importance of the region in terms of oil. As kitler mentioned, only the middle east is important in the USA while there are bad things going on in other parts of the world too.

BOLD TEXT: This is the same type of bullshit put forth by Adolf Hitler. Putting one group of people in a group to unite your religion against them in hate is nothing new, and it is just as dangerous as naziism. And Hitler was also educated and not a 'red neck', what's your freakin point??

Your Jewish paranoia is just stupid. You have destroyed your credibility and made yourself a joke. We invaded afghanistan because we were attacked by a terrorist group based from there, and they would not give them up. We attacked Iraq because our intelligence services, as well as most intelligence services in the world (not just bush as some morons would like us to think) believed strongly that Saddam either had or was developing WMDs and hated us enough to sell them to our enemies (Al Quiada). We did not find stockpiles of WMDs, but we did find some. We found mustard gas tipped warheads, we found recently used Chem weapons training facilities that contained small stores of nerve gasses such as VX, Mustard, etc. We found some mobile chem labs that could have been used to create chemical weapons and had traces of these chemicals. All of these are enough to firmly prove that Iraq was in material breach of the UN's mandates, and justify an invasion according to the UN's resolutions.

Both of these wars were in OUR national interest and had NOTHING to do with the Jews. If we wanted to protect the Jews so bad, why didn't we invade Palestine?? Have you thought anything through, or has your blind jew-hate tainted your entire world view?

And on invading Iran. They have threatened the annhialation of an entire nation (isreal). This is a very dangerous thing to do. If somebody makes threats like this, we should believe them. Case in point, the Nazis.

The war isn't inevidable. LMAO. It seems more unlikely, that US will not attack Iran. Iran is too strong for them to start fighting there alone. Differece between Iran and Iraq, is that Iran is a lot bigger country and they may not want their government dead. Anyway, USA would definately need reinforcements, like it had in Iraq, but the opposition in Europe is so strong, that the politicians don't want to dig their political grave like for example Tony Blair and Gernhard Schöder did (and the reason why some European countries attacked Iraq, was Iraq owning them a lot of money, which Iraq didn't pay). So, USA isn't really getting any help from Europe. I don't think even Australia is willing to attack Iran. That leaves Israel to support USA, but there's this problem that Israel is between a rock and a hard place, Israel is surrounded by countries, who want Israel dead, so when the rumble starts, Israel propably will be attacked from every direction. And they don't want that.

Anyway, can someone tell me what Iran has done? The reason why USA is after Iran, is because as a OPEC member, Iran wants (OPEC) to trade oil in Euros (just like also Iraq wanted).

If cause is better than means, then Israel should be terminated, since the reason why they fight so much in the middle-east, is because they want to get rid of the jews.

@Sqrl: Oh please, you propably are the only one who doesn't see it being propaganda. Stop watching Fox and mixing up the radical group such as PLO or Al-Qaeda at the area, with the countries governments. I could say British being extremist christians because of IRA.
Now, i don't say that Irans government would be the good guy, but it's not exactly the bad guy either.
So, the radical Islam isn't any worse than radical Christianity, since they both have the same causes. Also the US propaganda in this matter seem to be efficient, since this whole thing with Iran doesn't have nothing to do with religion. Do you even know many people in Iran are extremists? Do you know how much christians live in Iran? I don't see any reason why Iran would want to attack the western world, when the only reason they're not part of the western world, is that they have been blocked out of it.

Also notice, that the countries who make the most noise about Irans nuclear program, are the ones having nukes. Iran having nukes, would basically mean that these countries would have to be good friends with Iran (especially USA, which it don't want to).
Now, don't get me wrong, i'm against Iran having nukes (which they don't have), just like i'm against every existing nuke. I don't see why Iran couldn't have them, when "everyone else has nukes".

About the Israel and Nazis, there's definately some similarities, such as the jews having a goal to destroy Palestina. The point is, that they aren't any better.
So, if USA helps the ones that need help, without any personal gain, why they don't help the palestinian?

One of the reasons, when you say Europe sitting on their asses, while doing nothing, is that there are so many countries, and everyone has their own view. Just look who went to Afghanistan and Iraq. There's no such thing as "european army", every country has their own and most countries army exists only for defending their own country from possible attacker.

About the WWII, who were the good guys and who were the bad guys. For example my both grandfathers fought agains the allied, and the British declared a war to us by USAn pressuring. And all we did was defend our country against invasion from superior enemy. And how many countries did allied and it's allies actually invade?
And the real good guy, USA, luckily they didn't nuke hundreds of thousands civilian in Japan and luckily they didn't plan to nuke more.
As you can see, things aren't so black and white. There's actually no good guys or bad guys.

@Kyros: WWII wasn't a fight between good and evil. If you read some history, you may notice that. As i said, there were no good guys or bad guys. If the nazis would have won, you would still be saying that "luckily the good won".