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Before the PS1 - Associated with nerdy, geeky, no life gamers that had long, curly ginger hair, harry potter glasses and old jeans.

PS1 and PS2 - A more mainstream company enters. Associated with a wide range of people playing, and addiction.

Xbox 360 - Associated with mouthy, fat American teens playing online 24/7 and breaking up with their girlfriends for COD or Halo.

PS3 -Associated with the tech savy, well off, sophisticated alpha male who games to relax and enjoys high definition movies.

Wii - Kiddies, females and the elderly.

 

So i'd agree. And put your survey charts away, we all know in the real world that these are common views on the consoles.



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BBH said:

Before the PS1 - Associated with nerdy, geeky, no life gamers that had long, curly ginger hair, harry potter glasses and old jeans.

PS1 and PS2 - A more mainstream company enters. Associated with a wide range of people playing, and addiction.

Xbox 360 - Associated with mouthy, fat American teens playing online 24/7 and breaking up with their girlfriends for COD or Halo.

PS3 -Associated with the tech savy, well off, sophisticated alpha male who games to relax and enjoys high definition movies.

Wii - Kiddies, females and the elderly.

 

So i'd agree. And put your survey charts away, we all know in the real world that these are common views on the consoles.

no that is the immature high school person view of the industry, oh and also the immature video game reviewers



 I've never known the PS1 to have expanded much or changed alot, as far as I'm aware all that happened is everyone who previous had a NES, or SNES, or Genesis bought a PS1. Yeah the userbase was older, but that was cause it was 4 years since we got our SNES for Christmas...

 You can see today that Sony (And now Microsofts) market is pretty much those now full-time job people who grew up on the SNES > PS1 > PS2 type progression for the most part, and they've pretty much left Nintendo to snap up the new generation of younger gamers with the DS and WIi. Whenever I'm in a GAME store there will always be a few preteens there, and they'll never be looking at anything but the DS or Wii shelf.

 The PS1 did 'legitimize' gaming to some people though, I remember all the people who scorned me as a 'nerd' when I talked about Zelda or Metroid at school a few years later raving up FIFA and FFVII. They aimed their marketing at older people and alot of idiots suddenly weren't turned off at playing with what was a toy, but it was hardly a completely overhaul in mainstream opinion.



irstupid said:
BBH said:

Before the PS1 - Associated with nerdy, geeky, no life gamers that had long, curly ginger hair, harry potter glasses and old jeans.

PS1 and PS2 - A more mainstream company enters. Associated with a wide range of people playing, and addiction.

Xbox 360 - Associated with mouthy, fat American teens playing online 24/7 and breaking up with their girlfriends for COD or Halo.

PS3 -Associated with the tech savy, well off, sophisticated alpha male who games to relax and enjoys high definition movies.

Wii - Kiddies, females and the elderly.

 

So i'd agree. And put your survey charts away, we all know in the real world that these are common views on the consoles.

no that is the immature high school person view of the industry, oh and also the immature video game reviewers

I assure you it's a much wider view that just high school folks, whether you like it or not. You probably won't believe me anyway because you might not want to.



KylieDog said:
mai said:

Scoobes said:

 Games like MGS, Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Tomb Raider, Gran Turismo, Syphon Filter etc.

Before MGS there were Metal Gear games, Metal Gear was NES. Sweet Home is an inspiration behind Resident Evil, Sweet Home was on NES. Silent Hill yet another horror-themed game, though a great one, there're dozens of them on NES and SNES, such as Laplace no Ma on SNES based on H.P.Lovecraft stories. Tomb Raider franchise heavily borrows from Indiana Jones themes, there were Indiana Jones games on NES. Gran Turismo is a racing game, so about what mature themes we're talking here? Didn't play Syphon Filter, can't say anything about it, though I doubt it'll add anything to your pretty much already failed argument you've made. Sorry =)

 

Various random errors in this post aside, a lot of what Sony brought in presentation and storytelling just wasn't technically possible on other consoles due to memeory issues, there were very few exceptions in games on the N64 and very very few before that on other consoles.  Sony did it with massive amounts of games on its platform and broke out to appeal to people who didn't play games before.

Lol Mai thinks he knows all about old franchises yet Tomb raider was an N64 game first. Also out of all the series he mention that were on earlier 2D consols how come its the games that started on the Sony platform people reckonize as the first? Because Sony Legitimized gaming as a form of entertainment.



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Seems like this thread is getting really good now.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Gamers Club

lol.  So much revisionist history, it's making my head spin!

Okay, basically PS1 sold roughly about as much as NES did in the US and Japan.  Sony's real inroads into driving their userbase (and the console market in general) was in Europe, and there they largely cannibalized Europe's established and diverse computer gaming industry anyway (R.I.P. Amiga, Spectrum, Commodore, etc).

The truth of the matter is, Nintendo's always brought more legitimately new gamers into the industry than Sony has.  They've traditionally done this by bringing in kids for the first time with Super Mario Bros. or Pokemon, but this generation saw them working from other ends and bringing in women, seniors and other traditional "non-gamer" segments. What Sony did (in the US/JP at least) was take a page from Sega's playbook, and upmarket their platform to the aging base Nintendo helped build in.  In essence Sony's market was less "new" than it was courted and aging... most people came into gaming with Nintendo though, even if more people chose PlayStation in the late 90s.

"Mainstream" is really in the eye of the beholder.  I'd say gaming pre-Wii/DS/iPhone was still largely seen as an expensive, infantile hobby for teenagers, social reclusives and manchilden.  Adults still played Atari 2600 or the Famicom though too... I'd argue what Sony did was more continue the course and natural evolution of the industry (which itself, was naturally aging) rather than really making some dramatic and unique "first" in terms of legitimizing the medium within popular culture or to people not already indoctrinated as gamers.  



Tomb Raider was a Saturn game first you troglodytes!



Meh.. I still think the gameboy did a much better job for all people to accept gaming as a form of entertaining..



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

I can only assure you from one thing, the console market in Brasil expanded at least 10x after the psx. It's amazing how some people live in poverty and yet play PES in ps2. I guarantee that there are MILLIONS of ps2 in my country right now. And after ps3, much more people buys original games. The piracy is not only because of the high taxes and poverty in my country, but more because of culture. Even some rich people pirate games because "they are not dumb to pay for it". But ps3 is changing that. So i agree with some people. The rise of the market is more because Sony invested not only in US and Japan. The problem is, PS3 is fucking expensive and has no piracy. This killed a lot of "mindshare" in the world.