Inconclusive proof of what?  If anything, there's inconclusive proof that Natal actually does work well.  I would think the burden, in this case, is for MS to provide that proof... not for them to just hype it so fanboys drool.

or maybe Microsoft need's more time, the way i see it is I know the Hardware work's.

It's just the software at this point still need's work and MS is doing just that.

 I think many are getting way to Antsy, an it's at this point still a little too premature to judge the technology and it's software.

the Eyetoy work's verywell for the software it uses in my opinion, since the Tehnology in Natal is more advanced than that of the Eyetoy, It should work very well. Now I am not sying It will for a fact , I am just saying I am waiting on MS's official release to market Natal before i even judge it.

I pity your company if this is your "professional" opinion jneul.  You have no idea how the software api works for Natal so you cannot make any such comments in any professional sense.  You're basing your opinion on guesswork of what you think is happening, not on any actual facts, that is neither professional or unbiased I'm afraid. 

Can we not leave the Natal trolling till we're closer to E3, I'm sure there is already another 20-30 threads on here you could have posted this video in that slate Natal anyway.

On the no video of MOve issues, the very first public unveiling the guy had depth perception issues with the software and couldn't hit a object mapped in a 3D space.  Thats just one example off the top of my head, the difference is I understand that products go through various testing stages before features are finalised for the retail sector hence I wouldn't bother criticizing it.

I only see PS3 fans worried and bringing this up (obviously we know why) I'm not commenting on any of it until E3. Same with most MS fans (on thsi site anyway)

Probably a good idea. However, I'd say pretending like the video in this link as wel as the multitude that bring up serious questions about the functionality is equal to or worse than you digging in your heels and starting the same witchhunt you always do when people are critical about an obvious faulty natal video.

Stop the PS3 witchhunts for starters. Secondly, I, like any tech enthusiast or gamer who Natal is going to be marketed for has every right in the world to comment on these vids so get of your damn high horse, its not a freaking fraternity battle, its an open forum for gamers. Thirdly I, like many other realistic gamers, find it strange MSFT was pumping out Natal info publicly after E3 last year, Milo to IGN, on Jimmy Fallon etc. Then the troublesome reports came out via people questioning the finite control as well as the implementaton and they pull all public showings? Then we only here "behind closed doors reports" on the revolutionary things, yet every leaked video is "ricochet" and they all contain the same question marks?

It sounds to me that the people here arent blatently ripping on your precious Natal like you keep alluding to, its people viewing things that any gamer should be concerned about and you choosing to call them names and put your head in the sand. Just my observation which apparently I may or may not even be allowed to post since i own a PS3 so im a 3rd class citizen gamer.

First of all, don't tell me what to do, If I want to call people out for whatever reason I will. For good reason too.

I'm not commenting on this because it's still in alpha, like when Shadow Complex was shown at E3 and glitched. If natal comes out of E3 with bad press, then would be a good time to discuss it's faults. I'm not putting my head in the sand, I'm simply waiting. I will be the first to publically announce my dissapointment for natal if it sucks. and it's NOT my "precious natal" I'm optimistic about natal, but until I see software it's unlikely a first day buy for me. I still need convincing.

It's not exactly a witch hunt, well not a hard one anyway.

The last paragraph is quite amusing, I never called anyone any names, you're imagining things now. I simply pointed out jenul's sadness was fake, just go look at their post history, you'll get the idea she doesn't like the 360 or microsoft. In fact it's always sony fans posting this and always incincere posts from them acting to be "concerned"

There are plenty of sony fans on here that can comment on Microsoft negatively and I won't look twice, Psrock, dmeisterJ, torillian, CGIquality, boutrous, Euphoria, Axumblade, Kantor, Seraphic, Rainbird and many more. I just call out the ones I know are blatantly being insincere, if you don't like that, I don't actually care ...

Your imaginary image of me is distorted, I don't hate sony and I don't dislike the PS3 either, you'll be hard pressed to find a post from me made about Sony or PS3 in a negative light.

lol i did own a x360 once, and i did want natal as well, so carry on with the name calling, i may be pro sony, but at least i am willing to try out other consoles and gadgets which is why i also own a wii.

I think you deserve to be ignored by me now, thanks alot.

First of all, don't tell me what to do, If I want to call people out for whatever reason I will. For good reason too.

I'm not commenting on this because it's still in alpha, like when Shadow Complex was shown at E3 and glitched. If natal comes out of E3 with bad press, then would be a good time to discuss it's faults. I'm not putting my head in the sand, I'm simply waiting. I will be the first to publically announce my dissapointment for natal if it sucks. and it's NOT my "precious natal" I'm optimistic about natal, but until I see software it's unlikely a first day buy for me. I still need convincing.

It's not exactly a witch hunt, well not a hard one anyway.

The last paragraph is quite amusing, I never called anyone any names, you're imagining things now. I simply pointed out jenul's sadness was fake, just go look at their post history, you'll get the idea she doesn't like the 360 or microsoft. In fact it's always sony fans posting this and always incincere posts from them acting to be "concerned"

There are plenty of sony fans on here that can comment on Microsoft negatively and I won't look twice, Psrock, dmeisterJ, torillian, CGIquality, boutrous, Euphoria, Axumblade, Kantor, Seraphic, Rainbird and many more. I just call out the ones I know are blatantly being insincere, if you don't like that, I don't actually care ...

Your imaginary image of me is distorted, I don't hate sony and I don't dislike the PS3 either, you'll be hard pressed to find a post from me made about Sony or PS3 in a negative light.

You first said and have said multiple times the following general thing:

"I only see PS3 fans worried and bringing this up (obviously we know why"

And then the above that I bolded, youre generally paranoid that anyone saying anything negative about a video they see somehow have ulterior motives, that to me is a witchhiunt because your eon a crusade to diminish others opinions with this fallacy that they must be biased or the things theyre pointing out somehow dont exist when there are videos, youre virtually ignoring reality to carry out your crucifixion of anyone who says something negative of Natal.

Then get all hot and bothered when i say youre on a witchhunt, youre essentially saying any fan of Sony Corp are the only people having doubts about natal and seem to be paranoid as to why they are the only ones, this is why i say your eon a witch hunt. Be more specific in your debates and wording. Otherwise, be prepared to stand by youre quotes or retract them if they dont summarize youre actual feeling son the topic.

I suppose i mean "calling them names" to mean your essentially blanketing anyone who has a comment on this video a "sony fan" as if its a dirty thing that diminishes or distorts their opinion on such things, that to me is name calling.

If MSFT didnt want people to judge this product then dont put it on Jimmy Fallon. Bottomline.

I dont even know why i bother debating on these forums anymore, its virtually impossible now. I'll just say one last thing i guess, if anyone should be commenting on Natal based on MSFT's spoken mission statements its those who in fact DO NOT own a 360, not current owners.