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Is the XBOX doomed?

Yes! 179 37.68%
 
No! 207 43.58%
 
Maybe! Let's see what happens after Natal! 89 18.74%
 
Total:475

No, Xbox360 has Super Meat Boy coming out soon. Proof enough that the console is in fact the opposite of Doomed, it is Demood!



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coolbeans said:
Xoj said:
coolbeans said:
I'd negate the "still no success in JP" when considering the improvement of sales made there. I personally see too much riding on a 360 slim rumor and Natal for someone to say 360's sales future is looking very bright but I don't see it fading. I honestly don't see it going below 100k for week either but that's just me. Looking at this week's sales make it reasonable to make an assumption that it could.

well if u sell 1 , then you sell 2, people can say they double their sales or 50%-100% improvement >_>

Except we're talking in the hundred-thousands of improved sales.  See the difference?

half million to a million, having pay timed exclusived to most if not all HD JRPG this gen, doesn't sound really like a that "improvement" worth it,



yo_john117 said:

Why yes it is seeing as it was discontinued in 2005.

Clever clever. I thought the same thing when I first saw the title of the thread.

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STEKSTAV said:

About this time last year, the PS3 was in the same spot as the 360 is today. It was on the edge of falling below 100k a week. Doomed-threads were being posted all over the interwebs. The 360 will get a nice boost on AW week, but after that its kind of slow for a while, so we'll probably see a 90k number soon enough.

The 360 has been outsold since the Slim release (Sept-May), lost the holiday sales, despite having a 199$ console it gets outsold, its in its 5th year on the market, the exclusives are far apart, its currently close to droping below the 100k mark, still no success in JP and is only on top in the US out of all regions.

Do you think the 360 has hit its peak, and is now slowly fading away?
Or do you think the 360 will survive just fine for another 4 years until the supposedly nextbox gets released?

I think the 360 is doing just fine as far as exclusives are concerned.  Already this year it's had Mass Effect 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction, with Alan Wake right around the corner.  That's probably an improvment over where it was at last year so it's definitely not doomed.



I'm assuming this is a joke thread. The 360 continues to have strong sales in its fifth year including increasing it lead over the Ps3 in the largest market. It continues YOY profit growth thanks to XBL, the launch of Natal and the all but confirmed slim model looks to give the 360 a huge boost during the holiday season, and most likely will continue that growth into 2011 and 2012. I just don't see doomed being part of the conversation.

Really a more appropriate thread would be how well Sony has done to remove the Doomed label from not just the PS3 but the company as a whole.



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STEKSTAV said:

About this time last year, the PS3 was in the same spot as the 360 is today. It was on the edge of falling below 100k a week. Doomed-threads were being posted all over the interwebs. The 360 will get a nice boost on AW week, but after that its kind of slow for a while, so we'll probably see a 90k number soon enough.

The 360 has been outsold since the Slim release (Sept-May), lost the holiday sales, despite having a 199$ console it gets outsold, its in its 5th year on the market, the exclusives are far apart, its currently close to droping below the 100k mark, still no success in JP and is only on top in the US out of all regions.

Do you think the 360 has hit its peak, and is now slowly fading away?
Or do you think the 360 will survive just fine for another 4 years until the supposedly nextbox gets released?

Nah, I see way more of a dry spell currently on PS3 actually. After God of War 3 and Heavy Rain, PS3 really has nothing huge known upcoming but GT5, and Socom Move, both of which cannot compare to Reach. At least until they unveil stuff at E3.

 

360 OTOH just had Splinter Cell Conviction, has the Halo Reach Beta and Alan Wake coming up. Much more hype than PS3 in the short term.

Then in the longer term 360 has the big hammer of 2010 with Reach.

 

This fall 360 gets a major reboot with a slim, Reach, Natal, and possibly a price drop. Any one of those factors alone would boost it, let alone all.

And actually, the 360 is fairly close to having outsold the PS3 in the USA again in the period since the PS3 Slim was introduced. Last I checked IIRC it was like 60k behind before March NPD's, and it just gained another 20k or so in March NPD.

 

In addition, 360 graphics are showing the old dog has a lot of life left. Reach and Alan Wake are the two best looking exclusives ever yet on the platform, and imo rival any PS3 exclusive. As well as the continuing trend of most multiplatform games looking superior on 360 (just found out Afterburner Climax for example is 4XAA on 360, 0XAA on PS3).

 

And yeah, dont forget profits. It's something we dont talk about but 360 (EDD division) has racked up over a billion in profits recently in the last few quarters. Sony's PS3 division OTOH has for the most part steadily lost money, often tons of it. Microsoft has given up some market share for profits.

 

Finally if you take Japan out of the equation, which imo is kind of a "free" market for PS3, the 360 looks a lot better. For example as of the last financials, 360 was 5.2 million shipped hardware units ahead (38.7 360 to 33.5 PS3) but then PS3 is about 4 million ahead in Japan, making the gap elsewhere some 9 million for 360. And dont forget the west is a self contained market, as EA and Activision  and Ubisoft sell very few games in Japan.



All three systems have experienced healthy sales and extremely long life spans. Aside from the PS1 (which looked pretty shabby in it's 5th year) and the PS2 (which is still popular, but also looked pretty shabby by it's 5th year), what console has lasted this long and was still this viable?  The Xbox 360, Wii, and PS3 are both still impressing people AND selling well.

How many consoles must they sell? How long must they stay on the market?

No. No system is doomed.



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360 will sell more in calendar year 2010 than 2009.

Anyone disagree, please tell me how or why this will not happen.

Its now selling more year on year each week, it is only marginally behind year on year - year to date and we still have natal, possible remodelling, possible price changes and Reach.



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the X360 is not doomed but it will get crushed when the PS3 drops to $199



blackops said:
the X360 is not doomed but it will get crushed some moar!!! when the PS3 drops to $199

*fixed* lol