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trestres said:
Famitsu president expects 5 million units of MHP3 sold, that's not based of a poll, but probably from their analysts and Capcom's internal members. Where did I contradict myself anyways?

Okay, now I have to ask where said person made such a statement.  Because I've never seen any lone person in Famitsu come out and make such bold perdictions.  And you seem to be putting a lot behind this one person and his single prediction about a not yet released game, yet downplaying their prediction that Dragon Quest IX will sell 5 million.  Which is it?  Are they right or wrong...or just right about the one game you want them to be right about?  Which again, isn't out yet.

And you contradicted yourself by stating that Monster Hunter was going to be more popular than Dragon Quest with the release of the next game, than backpeddled and stated Dragon Quest was more popular but Monster Hunter is mearly gaining momentum.  Thereby pretty much dissolving your whole point that sales = popularity.  I'd like to point out that if sales = popularity, Monster Hunter has a long way to go before it catches up to Dragon Quest.

I would like to repeat the point I made back then.  Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest appeal to similar markets.  And just because Monster Hunter sells well doesn't mean it'll overtake the established fanbase of Dragon Quest or future Dragon Quest games will sell less copies.  That's like saying because Modern Warfare broke sales records, future Halo games will do worse.  It doesn't work that way.

ElGranCabeza said:
What are the chances of this coming to the US?

Probably slim to none as the game is a port of a game that was only in Japan to begin with.  And SquareEnix pretty much gives the series the cold shoulder outside of Japan as it is.



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But Nin is helping them make it bigger in the West aren't they? Kinda like Monster Hunter with Capcom? I saw a MH3 ad the other day speaking of which.



Kenryoku_Maxis said:
trestres said:
Famitsu president expects 5 million units of MHP3 sold, that's not based of a poll, but probably from their analysts and Capcom's internal members. Where did I contradict myself anyways?

Okay, now I have to ask where said person made such a statement.  Because I've never seen any lone person in Famitsu come out and make such bold perdictions.  And you seem to be putting a lot behind this one person and his single prediction about a not yet released game, yet downplaying their prediction that Dragon Quest IX will sell 5 million.  Which is it?  Are they right or wrong...or just right about the one game you want them to be right about?  Which again, isn't out yet.

And you contradicted yourself by stating that Monster Hunter was going to be more popular than Dragon Quest with the release of the next game, than backpeddled and stated Dragon Quest was more popular but Monster Hunter is mearly gaining momentum.  Thereby pretty much dissolving your whole point that sales = popularity.  I'd like to point out that if sales = popularity, Monster Hunter has a long way to go before it catches up to Dragon Quest.

I would like to repeat the point I made back then.  Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest appeal to similar markets.  And just because Monster Hunter sells well doesn't mean it'll overtake the established fanbase of Dragon Quest or future Dragon Quest games will sell less copies.  That's like saying because Modern Warfare broke sales records, future Halo games will do worse.  It doesn't work that way.

ElGranCabeza said:
What are the chances of this coming to the US?

Probably slim to none as the game is a port of a game that was only in Japan to begin with.  And SquareEnix pretty much gives the series the cold shoulder outside of Japan as it is.

RED here AND I never heard of that 5 million DQ quote before it was brought up to the thread, that's why I said Famitsu's track record isn't impecable, still Famitsu knowing that DQIX won't be going over 5 million has made a prediction of 5 million for MHP3, which means that according to them, MHP3 will sell more than any other DQ before.

First Bolded: I never backpeddled, I still think MHP3 will sell more copies than any other DQ game has ever sold before, show me where I supposedly backpeddled. Plus where in that statement you made do I contradict myself?

2nd bolded: In total sales, yeah, maybe because DQ has started 20 years ago? Of course MH has ways to go before it catches up, and it may never do so considering the time advantage DQ has. But right now, MH is really close to DQ in popularity and that's what counts. If a game in a series manages to sell X quantity and a game from another series manages to sell Y quantity, if Y is bigger than X then it means that it's more popular, doesn't matter how popular it was 20 years ago. For example you can easily say now that FF is less popular than MH. Perhaps the public is more aware of the brand, but MH is more popular as it will end in more people's hands. We will find out who is right when MHP3 releases, I think we are going in circles here.

3rd bolded: I never claimed that.



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it sounds so bad that I hope they decide they don't even want to do it..............



trestres said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
trestres said:
Famitsu president expects 5 million units of MHP3 sold, that's not based of a poll, but probably from their analysts and Capcom's internal members. Where did I contradict myself anyways?

Okay, now I have to ask where said person made such a statement.  Because I've never seen any lone person in Famitsu come out and make such bold perdictions.  And you seem to be putting a lot behind this one person and his single prediction about a not yet released game, yet downplaying their prediction that Dragon Quest IX will sell 5 million.  Which is it?  Are they right or wrong...or just right about the one game you want them to be right about?  Which again, isn't out yet.

And you contradicted yourself by stating that Monster Hunter was going to be more popular than Dragon Quest with the release of the next game, than backpeddled and stated Dragon Quest was more popular but Monster Hunter is mearly gaining momentum.  Thereby pretty much dissolving your whole point that sales = popularity.  I'd like to point out that if sales = popularity, Monster Hunter has a long way to go before it catches up to Dragon Quest.

I would like to repeat the point I made back then.  Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest appeal to similar markets.  And just because Monster Hunter sells well doesn't mean it'll overtake the established fanbase of Dragon Quest or future Dragon Quest games will sell less copies.  That's like saying because Modern Warfare broke sales records, future Halo games will do worse.  It doesn't work that way.

ElGranCabeza said:
What are the chances of this coming to the US?

Probably slim to none as the game is a port of a game that was only in Japan to begin with.  And SquareEnix pretty much gives the series the cold shoulder outside of Japan as it is.

RED here AND I never heard of that 5 million DQ quote before it was brought up to the thread, that's why I said Famitsu's track record isn't impecable, still Famitsu knowing that DQIX won't be going over 5 million has made a prediction of 5 million for MHP3, which means that according to them, MHP3 will sell more than any other DQ before.

First Bolded: I never backpeddled, I still think MHP3 will sell more copies than any other DQ game has ever sold before, show me where I supposedly backpeddled. Plus where in that statement you made do I contradict myself?

2nd bolded: In total sales, yeah, maybe because DQ has started 20 years ago? Of course MH has ways to go before it catches up, and it may never do so considering the time advantage DQ has. But right now, MH is really close to DQ in popularity and that's what counts. If a game in a series manages to sell X quantity and a game from another series manages to sell Y quantity, if Y is bigger than X then it means that it's more popular, doesn't matter how popular it was 20 years ago. For example you can easily say now that FF is less popular than MH. Perhaps the public is more aware of the brand, but MH is more popular as it will end in more people's hands. We will find out who is right when MHP3 releases, I think we are going in circles here.

3rd bolded: I never claimed that.

Well I don't know how you could miss that supposed quote about Famitsu saying DQIX will reach 5 million, since its in the same source article you just linked where someone from Famtisu made the same prediction for Monster Hunter Freedom 3.  However, I'd like to clarify something here.  For both Dragon Quest IX AND the upcoming MHF3, they aren't saying the games 'will' sell 5 million, they're just saying they 'can' sell 5 million.  And, like I've said multiple times in this thread, MHF3 isn't even out yet so there's no point in arguing about it from a sales perspective.  As for Dragon Quest IX, its STILL selling, and there's nothing to say it won't get near 5 million, especially after the recent price cut and a future re-release.

As for your contradictions and stuff, I laid them out in my previous post.  But they have to do with a combination of you still thinking 'sales = popularity' with no other alternative and trying to simplify one aspect of comparison (such as using sales as the only measuring stick) while completely ignoring other parts of the discussion (such as just playing off Dragon Quests previous sales history and popularity simply because one game 'might' sell better in the future).  I'm not wanting to play another game of 'bold and bait' to get to the actual end of that part of the conversation.  I've made my points.

In the end, you seem to be trying to fight to see Monster Hunter 'beat' Dragon Quest.  And there's no point in it.  As I've said multiple times now, they sell to similar fans.  You should be trying to do what Nintendo is doing, trying to advocate for both series to become more popular outside Japan.  Not cheer for one game in one series to outsell the other and somehow become 'more popular'.



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palancas7 said:
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Tbh comparing DQ and MH's popularity in respect to how long each has existed has some flaws, in todays market things are more mainstream and the are a few more factors. In todays market if you hype and push something you can get high sales so a new franchise can rack up sales rapidly, Monster Hunter will never outsell DQ outright as the latter has better appeal to the west and is more accessible, MHFU has sold 4.5m but is out in all 3 regions, DQ has sold 4.3m and is only out in Japan (which MHFU has around 3.6m sales) with Nintendo publishing it in the west, I'll stick my neck out and predict it could push 5m possibly 6m under Nintendo if pushed as hard as first party titles.

This is DQs force in the mainstream compared to MH's mainstream drive, I'm a fan of both franchises but MH is far too complex to combat DQ's simplicity and characteristic charm, both these games are more popular in Europe then the US curiously enough and I'm seeing MH3 ads all over the place over here. MH needs to break it's handheld duck and be successful on non handhelds and Tri is achieving that but to take on DQ I personally don't see it happening as DQ has more chance of taking of in the west then MH and when it does sales could start reaching rediculous levels.

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when famitsu said dqix would sel 5 mmillion where they talking japan or worldwide?



rastari said:
when famitsu said dqix would sel 5 mmillion where they talking japan or worldwide?

Japan.  They also expected MH3 to sell 1.5-2m btw.

 

Anyway, not sure how this can be spun into bad news.  Seems like a good fit for Wii, a guaranteed good seller (likely better than any SE HD game not called "Final Fantasy XIII"), and it also sorts of sets up the impending Wii DQ deluge.  Next up, DQVII...