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@ Grimes

Huh? I saw nothing indicating "Nokia sales dropping like a rock lately". Do you care to provide a proof link? Their sales last quarter increased, and one could argue only that the increase was smaller than for the rest of the market, and that's what I could agree with. As for Samsung, they're making android phones as well as handsets based on winmo, symbian, and their own platform bada, that's their way of strategy.

So, from my perspetive, you demonstrated lack of knowledge enough to ignore your post :p



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MDMAniac said:
@ Grimes

Huh? I saw nothing indicating "Nokia sales dropping like a rock lately". Do you care to provide a proof link? Their sales last quarter increased, and once could argue only that the increase was smaller than for the rest of the market, and that's what I could agree with. As for Samsung, they're making android phones as well as handsets based on winmo, symbian, and their own platform bada, that's their way of strategy.

So, from my perspetive, you demonstrated lack of knowledge enough to ignore your post :p

not so fast:

Nokia "not prepared" for smartphone onslaught; could sell its handset business

Posted By Martyn Warwick , 30 November 2009 | 2 Comments | (2)
Tags: mobile Mobile Internet Finance

Nokia's director of strategy, Anssi Vanjoki, admits that the Finnish company was ill-prepared for the sustained and undeniably successful attack on its commanding position by the likes of Apple, Google and RIM and "does not rule out" the sale of its handset business at some time in the future. Martyn Warwick reports.

Nonetheless, this begs the question as to why a man as senior as Anssi Vankjoki would tell the press that he "does not exclude" the selling off of the jewel in Nokia's crown at some unspecified date in the future. It is also evident that the head of strategy is not a loose cannon and did not make his "on the record" remarks off-the-cuff or without the knowledge of the Nokia board.

So, what's going on? Well, Nokia has taken a hard knock. Hitherto, the company was seemingly impregnable up there in its Nordic stronghold, but times are changing.

 http://www.telecomtv.com/comspace_newsDetail.aspx?id=e9381817-0593-417a-8639-c4c53e2a2a10&n=45791



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Mr Khan said:

If they're competing, they're doing so with severely assymetrical values.

 

Actually, this move almost looks like they're gunning for the 360. They could grab customers who want what the 360 is offering in part, but has overshot otherwise.

 

What?

 

Explain, because your just not being clear or making sense.

 

How can you say IF they are competeing and say that after?

 

It's like your disclaiming something, I don't get it. I'm not even going to touch your second sentence with a 10 foot pole, very confusing stuff.

 

 



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MDMAniac said:
@ Grimes

Huh? I saw nothing indicating "Nokia sales dropping like a rock lately". Do you care to provide a proof link? Their sales last quarter increased, and one could argue only that the increase was smaller than for the rest of the market, and that's what I could agree with. As for Samsung, they're making android phones as well as handsets based on winmo, symbian, and their own platform bada, that's their way of strategy.

So, from my perspetive, you demonstrated lack of knowledge enough to ignore your post :p

http://gigaom.com/2009/04/16/nokia-profits-down-90-but-at-least-weve-hit-bottom/

Nokia sold 93 million devices from January through March, down 19 percent from 115 million in the year-ago quarter. It also maintained the 37 percent cell phone market share it reported in fourth quarter, down 2 percent from the same period a year ago.



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@ joeorc

Und? This is only an interview, and it hardly counter anything from my posts. Dismal sales in NA is nothing new, as I was the first to point it out in the thread. Neither I did brag that their competition is weak, Nokia certainly face pretty good opponents, so I can't blame the exec who openly admitted it. But again, Nokia global sales _are_ solid ATM and on the rise. Their marketshare may drop a few percents this year though and it'll be Samsung taking the lead, as I posted myself. So?



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MDMAniac said:
@ Grimes

Huh? I saw nothing indicating "Nokia sales dropping like a rock lately". Do you care to provide a proof link? Their sales last quarter increased, and one could argue only that the increase was smaller than for the rest of the market, and that's what I could agree with. As for Samsung, they're making android phones as well as handsets based on winmo, symbian, and their own platform bada, that's their way of strategy.

So, from my perspetive, you demonstrated lack of knowledge enough to ignore your post :p

http://gigaom.com/2009/04/16/nokia-profits-down-90-but-at-least-weve-hit-bottom/

Nokia sold 93 million devices from January through March, down 19 percent from 115 million in the year-ago quarter. It also maintained the 37 percent cell phone market share it reported in fourth quarter, down 2 percent from the same period a year ago.

than they state this much later in the 2009 year:

Nokia "not prepared" for smartphone onslaught; could sell its handset business.

now this does not mean they could not fix this problem, but when Nokia stated this they may infact be sending out feeler's to see who would be willing to bite.

one only has to look what happend to Palm now.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63B42120100412

but that's also not the other thing Palm is looking at:

Palm For Sale: Rating 10 Potential Buyers

04.12.2010

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362508,00.asp



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@ grimes

You're joking? How does the article from april of 2009 translate into current performance? Care to look into 2009Q4, for instance? Or probably I should declared doom and gloom all over Apple face just because they lost some ground to rim and adroind at some point, too? :)



MDMAniac said:
@ joeorc

Und? This is only an interview, and it hardly counter anything from my posts. Dismal sales in NA is nothing new, as I was the first to point it out in the thread. Neither I did brag that their competition is weak, Nokia certainly face pretty good opponents, so I can't blame the exec who openly admitted it. But again, Nokia global sales _are_ solid ATM and on the rise. Their marketshare may drop a few percents this year though and it'll be Samsung taking the lead, as I posted myself. So?

that's not just any ol interview read it more closely:

this is not just something an exec said off the cuf or anything like that it's a very real concern for Nokia. the mere fact that in under 2 year's Apple has been able to unseat such a very large chunk of the smartphone market is a very real sign that thing's are not going to smoothly for quite a number of companies in that market.

even the fact that Even Google's Android has been able to gain share on Nokia as it has, Even Microsoft's very own Window's mobile has lost a big chunk of it's share this is not something you should overlook. Nokia has had strong solid sales but by the look's of it, and Even Nokia is not taking this lightly.



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Avinash_Tyagi said:
mai said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Umm your numbers are way off, as of Feb 2010 RIM has 42.1%, Apple 25.4%, MS 15.1% and Google 9.0%, Apple's share has actually begun to fall off as well, while Google has been growing fast

What about Symbian?


  The company that did the polling, comscore,  seems to have either considered them not relevant or just ignored them

Or... those numbers are US market only. Nokia was ignored because they have no real presence in the North American smartphone market.

And Apple's staggering 0.1% marketshare drop isn't much cause for concern. Most of Apple's growth shows up around June, because that's when the new software and hardware shows up.



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famousringo said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
mai said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Umm your numbers are way off, as of Feb 2010 RIM has 42.1%, Apple 25.4%, MS 15.1% and Google 9.0%, Apple's share has actually begun to fall off as well, while Google has been growing fast

What about Symbian?


  The company that did the polling, comscore,  seems to have either considered them not relevant or just ignored them

Or... those numbers are US market only. Nokia was ignored because they have no real presence in the North American smartphone market.

And Apple's staggering 0.1% marketshare drop isn't much cause for concern. Most of Apple's growth shows up around June, because that's when the new software and hardware shows up.

Yeah but this year they've got Android to worry about, plenty of android tablets and really epic android phones coming (Going to pick me up an HTC incredible soon)



 

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