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Million, this has become a joke thread, don't turn it on-topi-

47 MILLION FOR WII!?!? *laughs insanely at mrstickball*



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Million said:
I think the future of the Wii is uncertain , they've played all their biggest cards in the early stages of the Wii release , the nature of the casual market is unpredictable , the Novelty of the Wii mote could wear of for many , amount of shovelware being released , least advanced console out of the 3 etc etc, so many things go against the Wii it's amazing.

On the other hand the Wii hasn't changed price point at all , sells healthily regardless of software support , easily outsells the PS3 & 360 combined some weeks etc etc

I don't think the Wii will break 120Mil TBH.

 Gotta dissagree with you there... As far as I'm concerned, the Wii hasn't used any life-lines to safe it's ass yet, and won't for quite sometime... The 360 & PS3 both have had price cuts, bundles, and countless games that were supposed to dethrone the Wii... The PS360 are the ones who have used their backups. For the Wii, there's still room for a price cut (Like you mentioned), different colors, building 3rd Party Support, and the big suprises Reggie mentioned that will appear at E3...

Other then that your points are great... :) 



 

 

 

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nice ideas and arguments, it could turn out that way, I think its not likely as there will be even more people buying consoles this gen compared to last because games are becoming a lot like TV, first TV's were small screens and bulky and only a few people had them and now just about everyone has one if not two. Whats in the news and what everyone is talking about is the Wii and you can bet it's most likely going to stay that way for this gen basically whoever obtains the image of "the console this gen" much like SNES, PS1, and PS2 did you basically have a foothold that will not go away for the rest of the gen. Good post MrStickball.

PS: Why did someone revive an old topic?



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Because it is fun to bring back completely wrong threads that predicted the future.



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dtewi said:
Because it is fun to bring back completely wrong threads that predicted the future.

Who said the thread is wrong?



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Zucas said:
This actually would have been a really good point, but said topic creator forgot what is the most important aspect of sales: brand appeal. Brandname is what sold the PS2, PS1, and NES as he mentioned. Sure as hell time helped, but what helped them to sell even past their time, aka other stonger more evolved consoles in the market. It's called brand appeal. It's what keeps the PS2 still going and what will keep the Wii going. Sure Wii is going to hit a point of saturation due to its lack of power probably somewhere in mid to late 2009, but brandname will still make it a slow and drawn out death even after N6 is released, giving it the ability to sell way past its time. This is why it can do 80m+. In no way am I implying that it will, because there are still a lot of factors that could stop it, more than likely though this will happen given the current market situation.

Brand name?

I wouldn't put it as such. Videogames are a momentum based industry, to be sure, but I wouldn't really consider that to be brand power.

Wii is not going to hit a saturation point due to lack of power. If lack of power was going to hurt it, it would have hurt it already. Instead, the philosophy which led to the lack of power is also leading to the system-moving software like Sports and Fit.



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dtewi said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

Thread necros is not okay.



__XBrawlX__ said:
Million said:
I think the future of the Wii is uncertain , they've played all their biggest cards in the early stages of the Wii release , the nature of the casual market is unpredictable , the Novelty of the Wii mote could wear of for many , amount of shovelware being released , least advanced console out of the 3 etc etc, so many things go against the Wii it's amazing.

On the other hand the Wii hasn't changed price point at all , sells healthily regardless of software support , easily outsells the PS3 & 360 combined some weeks etc etc

I don't think the Wii will break 120Mil TBH.

Gotta dissagree with you there... As far as I'm concerned, the Wii hasn't used any life-lines to safe it's ass yet, and won't for quite sometime... The 360 & PS3 both have had price cuts, bundles, and countless games that were supposed to dethrone the Wii... The PS360 are the ones who have used their backups. For the Wii, there's still room for a price cut (Like you mentioned), different colors, building 3rd Party Support, and the big suprises Reggie mentioned that will appear at E3...

Other then that your points are great... :)


My post was really a generalisation and when I said biggest cards I was really reffering to Software , Super Mario , Zelda , Metroid Prime,  Galaxy , Brawl , Wii-Fit , Mario Kart , Wii Play , Wii Sports all released within two years of each other , it provokes the question what's left after Nintendo uses all their biggest franchises in the first two years ? they've got pokemon and that's about it , well there is the option of iterations but that's not really Nintendo's style.

 I believe price-cuts and bundles have a more signifant impact on the PS3 and 360 than they do on the Wii , in  Eurpope there's a £60 price different between the Wii and PS2 ( Using the retailer argos) and it's pretty much agreed that the Wii is pretty  cheap , bundling cheap hardware with a game isn't as good value for money to the customer as bundling expensive hardware with a game . 

 I think because of the nature of the casual demographic price cuts will have neglible effects, casuals could loose interest for reasons external to the Wii (maybe another gaming craze from Apple or something) wheras it's pretty much certain that the hardcore userbase will maintain their interest in the XBOX360/PS3 respetivley until they release the PS4/XBOX720 .

The Wii uses a formula which is different from the traditional approach , low tech , highly innovative , new demographic . WHilst this has resulted in record profitability , popularity etc the future of this kind of appraoch is uncertain , there is no historical data to rely on , Nintendo have no idea how loyal their userbase is.