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endimion said:
rolltide101x said:

Not really considering how long they have been trying to push it. No matter if you like it or not MS WILL sell Xbox eventually unless they drastically change their business model (probably not going to happen)

no they won't, first because nobody would buy it, second because they drastically need it... It's not a matter of choice the living too space is the last tech space really up for grabs... Nobody truly dominates there only niche markets fractured in different entertainment segment (video game/tv,cable/streaming etc)... And display tech has a judge headway...

MS is mishandling it for sure but their vision is two step ahead of the competition... We will need a unique entertainment box down the last ne, not just a console, not just a roku, not just a motin/3d/VR/AR/ cable box stand alone... But an all in one box... I know i do and 100s of millions will eventually and then we'll head into the smart house for all area... But living room first.... Without that MS is in trouble in the long run outside of the business space....

Xbox has lost MS billions of dollars and most investors with MS want Xbox gone. It will be going away eventually to a new owner. Xbox is a very valueable brand it could be profitable if MS would handle it properly which they seem to refuse to do



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joeorc said:

Microsoft in my Opinion is treating the xbox platform more as a "windows OS 10" certified Device than really its own platform. 

The Move to Unify their Windows OS with xbox really in my Opinion is more of taking the xbox platform to be pretty much just another device that plays windows OS build games, pretty much the Media Center PC that the Xbox has always been, but Now more than ever moving into that Direction.

exactly. And with MS now buying up patents and technologies for streaming from computer to tv with a thumbdrive...

"Designed for mirroring

But the real difference is that Chromecast is designed for running mobile apps like Netflix on your TV. An ability to mirror your Chrome browser is more of an afterthought.

Miracast (microsofts thumbdrive) was designed first and foremost to mirror what your screen displays, so it serves as a second, wireless monitor."

It also doesn't require wifi. It's like a long range bluetooth with much faster speeds.

And it's only 60$



Microsoft in my Opinion is treating the xbox platform more as a "windows OS 10" certified Device than really its own platform. 

The Move to Unify their Windows OS with xbox really in my Opinion is more of taking the xbox platform to be pretty much just another device that plays windows OS build games, pretty much the Media Center PC that the Xbox has always been, but Now more than ever moving into that Direction.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

ironmanDX said:
I agree... Sort of.

All consoles will soon be gone in the traditional sense . I guess another 2 generations. I don't understand targeting of the xbox, though.

EDIT: Wow, I just spent 45 minutes writing a detailed explanation of why ms is more likely to ditch the box sooner than sony is and vgchartz ate it.

Long story short, x1 pacing is really slowing down. ps4 is in a very very healthy position right now with very little competition. Outpacing ps3 by almost double and actually making a profit on hardware, which is likely increasing with every console they churn out (based on economy of scale). This is the opposite for MS. Though they are likely making a profit on each box, the costs involved are eating up their revenues.

It makes more sense for MS to change tactics than to continue drinking at a drying up well. Sony on the other hand is not in that position.

That's the gist of it.

EDIT2: I do wholeheartedly agree that the future is a livingroom without a box. However, Sony is more in the position to keep the box for now while they work on other things. And MS is more in the position to transition early.



I agree... Sort of.

All consoles will soon be gone in the traditional sense . I guess another 2 generations. I don't understand targeting of the xbox, though.



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FloatingWaffles said:

I would understand that if Microsoft didn't care/have faith in the future of Xbox, but why wouldn't they? It's still profitable and still has a strong future.

As far as anyone can guess, Xbox isn't profitable - the division it's in is, but that is something else.

That isn't the main problem though. The real issue is that to management and stockholders, even if Xbox was able to turn a small profit, the resources spent getting there could be used in other places for much higher gains - especially now that "the living room" no longer has the importance it seemed to have when MS started the Xbox project.



FloatingWaffles said:
theprof00 said:
FloatingWaffles said:
theprof00 said:

are you joking?


I'm not joking. Are you?

It's just the way you phrased your statement. Just because something is profitable doesn't mean you wouldn't get rid of it. 

Example: Thousands of products in history that have been successful and then sold to someone else for a lump sum because owner didn't value the future of the product.


I would understand that if Microsoft didn't care/have faith in the future of Xbox, but why wouldn't they? It's still profitable and still has a strong future.

Even if Xbox is still profitable and Microsoft one day randomly said they don't care about it anymore, you could say that about any company though. Sony could randomly say they don't care about Playstation and get rid of it one day as well, same with Nintendo and basically any company.

Playstation is like Sony's second best division

xbox doesn't even earn MS a tenth of what they make in a quarter, in a year.
There's a difference in scope.

It's actually really complicated. Has to do a lot with stock price and margin etc etc. I'd be writing for a page, but MS would be better off without the xbox. The brand can stay, unless someone bids excessively for it, in which case windows is always a good backup....but the box..? meh.



theprof00 said:
FloatingWaffles said:
theprof00 said:

are you joking?


I'm not joking. Are you?

It's just the way you phrased your statement. Just because something is profitable doesn't mean you wouldn't get rid of it. 

Example: Thousands of products in history that have been successful and then sold to someone else for a lump sum because owner didn't value the future of the product.


I would understand that if Microsoft didn't care/have faith in the future of Xbox, but why wouldn't they? It's still profitable and still has a strong future.

Even if Xbox is still profitable and Microsoft one day randomly said they don't care about it anymore, you could say that about any company though. Sony could randomly say they don't care about Playstation and get rid of it one day as well, same with Nintendo and basically any company.



jlmurph2 said:
Vasto said:
As always all eyes on Microsoft.


How can they not be when MS is so huge and obviously a company that will stay around way longer than most. #KeepHopeAlive


They spent the last 13-14 years trying their best to tie anything and everything to the XBOX. Now they are making a clear break from that and it is a good thing? Yes MS is huge company which is exactly why they dont live and die by one product line. The whole concept with the XB1 was to be the multimedia center that everything revolved around why would they distance their other products from it?



psn- tokila

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FloatingWaffles said:
theprof00 said:

are you joking?


I'm not joking. Are you?

It's just the way you phrased your statement. Just because something is profitable doesn't mean you wouldn't get rid of it. 

Example: Thousands of products in history that have been successful and then sold to someone else for a lump sum because owner didn't value the future of the product.