Official 2020 US Election: Democratic Party Discussion

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... You know what. There's literally no point in arguing with Jumpin, he literally wont refute my points and is now making up random things to try to support his "you're trumpian and you only support bernie cause cult of personality". Let me say this again for @Jumpin .

I do not support Bernie Sanders because he's Bernie Sanders. I support him because hs policies align with what I want. That is how you support candidates. Warren doesn't align with me and she doesn't support medicare for all and wont fight for it. That's why her first thing is a public option. I support policy, that's it. read my posts and stop this nonsense.

Bernie: Cancel all student debt

Warren: Some of it

Bernie: Cancel All Medical Debt

Warren: silent

Bernie: Medicare For all

Warren: Medicare for all who want it then Medicare for all (public option then single payer, aka she's not gonna fight for single payer, read between the lines)

Bernie: Bolivia Was a coup

Warren: They need free and fair elections, let's ignore they just had a free and fair election

Bernie: You can't fight a system by taking its money, so I reject all big money

Warren: I'll transfer in 10mil of big money raised in Senate and raise it in the general.

I can contrast this more and more. I need you to understand this very simple thing and stop this nonsense with cult of personality. I point out policy after Policy, things warren has said that disqualify her and what do you do? WhY aRe YoU aTtAcKiNg ThE lEfT. Like honestly, do you read my posts? Vetting a candidate and contrasting them isn't attacking the left. I'm further left than you. That's why I support Bernie over Warren, she doesn't go far enough for me and she is not a fighter. Understand this very simple thing. Pointing out Warren's flaws, her pivots, her lies is not attacking the left. Its helping people be informed about the candidates. This is why you annoy me so much, you keep attacking and attacking but you don't refute my concerns with Warren. You don't go after my point. You made up a hell of a lot of stuff like I said them and mocked them then used that to build your argument, a slippery slope. Arguing with Fallacy after Fallacy then acting high and mighty like you "destroyed" someone. This is my last response to you about this matter. If you're mad at me for pointing out the truth then you know what you can do?

Call Warren, Tweet at her, PUSH HER TO THE LEFT ON THE ISSUES. Tell her no big money, no corporate money in the general. Tell her to stop flip flopping on Medicare for all and support the god damn bill! Tell her to stop supporting US imperialism! Tell her to Cancel Medical debt and all Student Debt! But even then, she voted for Trump's military Budget, the largest one that had more than he asked for. But then part of her M4A plan is to cut military spending yet on the debate she couldn't even say she was going to. And here's something else for you since you're trying to make it look like bringing up a candidate's history is bad. Nah,its a record. Its on the book buddy, it gives you an insight to their decision making process and how brave and how much of a fighter they are and sadly warren just aint it. That's not my fault. That's on her. Just like Hillary was a terrible candidate with a terrible record thus she lost, Warren has a record and while its not the dumpster fire that Hillary's was, its still bad. Anyway, I can legit go on about how 70% of her plans only come up now that she's running for president and that Bernie has made bills for almost all of them and she never co-sponsered as well but hey, sure, I'm totally attacking the left when I'm a populist Leftist who wants the best fighting chance for the policies I want instituted.

So let me make this clear. I do not support Bernie because he's Bernie, I support him because I like his policies and I support the policies. That's why I give Tulsi credit as well. That's why I support AOC and Ilhan Omar. So kindly, cut this cult of personality nonsense and argue policy and if you can't do that then stop quoting me. This argument is going no where and This isn't educating nor helping anyone and is a total waste of time.