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Baalzamon said:
Probably the biggest issue across society as a whole is people truly WANTING to work hard and get themselves something. I have no idea what the fix is.

But the amount of people that didn't care at all throughout school (grades K-12), then really didn't care in college (if they attended). Then they screw around all day at their jobs and don't take it seriously at all. But then they complain that they don't make enough money to function as they want to in our society.

They complain that their boss makes more than them...it just really comes off as this constant stream of complaints about those who are better off, instead of actually working to obtain something better for yourself.

Is this how it should be? I honestly don't know. Maybe those who jerk off in school should still just be able to get good jobs, live a lucrative life. I'm really not sure.

But it really seems like the general person I see who actually has SOME motivation in their life? They do decent. They might not be rich. But they arent in poverty their whole lives.

I think there are a lot of systemic problems within that large problem beyond just some innate individual level issue.

For example, part of the reason many people do not get by well in school is because our school system has failed to properly engage with them, or provide the resources (be it additional teachers or additional learning tools) to create students who are encouraged to engage with that system. Further, our schooling system in large part does not prepare individuals for life outside of school so they are unable to make the informed choices necessary to both find a work environment which is suited to them, and function outside of work. These improvements could create a positive feedback system which improves the ability of future generations to tackle those same issues.

This extends to issues in the workplace, starting with the actual process of career selection, and extending to the lack of unionization, and general attitudes which treat the employee as a tool and not a partner. Again, there are many missteps along the way which create this disillusionment with the system and create an environment where the employee cannot thrive.

All in all, while you can speak of things on the individual level which can be done to be better off, we have to face and acknowledge those systemic factors which create these issues. We cannot simply look at the end product as if it was inevitable. It is the result of interactions between all of those individuals systems.

And addressing these issues, more often than not, requires money. This may be money from taxes which go towards hiring new teachers in an underfunded district, or this could be money which goes towards providing additional paid vacation days to ensure that your employees don't feel as if they are being exploited. In most circumstances, the place this money should come from, is the rich.

Note: I am not directly disagreeing with you or arguing with the points that are being made. Just adding my two cents to this conversation, so don't feel like I am implying that you have been expressing the opposite of these points.