HylianSwordsman said:
Bernie isn't a capitalist, he's a market socialist economically, a democratic socialist politically, and a reform socialist in strategy. His Political Revolution that he always talks about is his answer to the criticisms of revolutionary socialists that you can't reform the system. He believes that abolition through revolution isn't necessary if there's a political revolution that renews the people's sense of civic duty and interest in public action, which he hopes will create the appetite for the fundamental reforms he proposes that would gradually turn us into a market socialist system. I think his strategy will work if we give it a chance. In the short term though, the main visible difference between him and Warren will be limited to rhetoric. But the signs are on the horizon. I mean have you seen his Green New Deal? Not just 100% renewable, but 100% publicly owned power. He's literally advocating seizing the means of electricity production. He'll do this with healthcare and other sectors of the economy as well. Just because he still supports markets doesn't make him not a socialist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Reform_versus_revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism People accuse Bernie of being a simple social democrat, but here's a quote from the market socialism article that explains things a bit: "while social democracy aims to achieve greater economic stability and equality through policy measures such as taxes, subsidies and social welfare programs, market socialism aims to achieve similar goals through changing patterns of enterprise ownership and management" Hence why publicly owned power is so important to Bernie, as is getting rid of private insurance. |
"Market socialism is a type of economic system involving the public, cooperative or social ownership of the means of production in the framework of a market economy. " - from your link. So where does Bernie say he wants to implement this? This would, in effect, abolish the bourgeoisie ownership of the means of production in favour of the proletariat.
Giving more authority to the government is not socialism. It simply bolsters the bureaucracy. This can sometimes benefit the people (but so can tyranny), it can also oppress them since it is, in effect, a hierarchy.
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