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sundin13 on 16 July 2019
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EricHiggin said:
sundin13 said:

If you are giving to charity because you want respect, you aren't being altruistic, you are being selfish. You are essentially paying for an advertisement about how good of a person you are. The motivation behind giving to charity for an altruistic individual is the knowledge you are helping others. These argument that you are putting forward are simply reinforcing the arguments I was making by listing several selfish reasons that one could use to donate to charity.

Charity - An organization set up to provide help and raise money for those in need, or, the voluntary giving of help typically in the form of money to those in need.

You're only allowed to give away help if you want absolutely nothing in return? Even a simple thanks as a pat on the back? You realize without having done what people have to do to earn that money, they wouldn't have the money to give away in the first place right? Money that in no way do they have to give away. That's not worth one word to show the smallest amount of appreciation and respect for their contribution?

"Allowed"? I haven't spoken a single word about being "allowed" to donate to charity. Why are you going off on random tangents that have nothing to do with the conversation at hand? The conversation isn't about who is allowed to donate to charity. That doesn't even make sense. The conversation is about what it means for someone to donate to charity selfishly, something which you have provided several examples of.

As for whether it is worth respect, I'll respect Trump for donating to the National Park Services when he stops actively going against the mission statement of the National Park Services in every other move that he makes. I'm not going to praise someone for taking one tiny step forward when the rest of the year they have been sprinting backwards at full speed...