SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:
1. No force. UBI. Here's enough money to do with whatever you please, so you can't argue that you don't have enough money, since you and the baby will both be given the basics financially. If you have another reason as to why you want to abort then you're free to voice that.
2. You wanted to know what a more humane choice would be because you asked if terminating the fetus was worse than having a baby/child where it cannot be properly cared for. Well what would be worse, allowing astronauts to potentially end up in a situation without heat or oxygen, or not sending them into space so that doesn't happen? Basically, ending all future potential careers of astronauts, like ending all future potential of fetus'. To boldly go where no aborted fetus has gone before?
"You know the greatest danger facing us is ourselves, an irrational fear of the unknown. But there's no such thing as the unknown — only things temporarily hidden, temporarily not understood."
"Without freedom of choice there is no creativity. The body dies."
"Live long and prosper."
3. You wanted to know how trying to ensure the well being of the mother and child is inconsistent. If both she and the baby get UBI, then money should not be a problem since it will allow them the basic necessities.
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1 and 3). I think you are missing the fact I kind of agree with you. So are you for a UBI then?
2). I'm pretty sure an astronaut has a choice to be an astronaut. I don't think a fetus has a choice in the environment (financial, educational, emotional, medical, etc...support) they are born into.
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1&3. No. Welfare is one thing, but enough for the basics so you don't have to work is way too much, especially at the expense of who has to fund it. I'm for people taking responsibility and owning it. I know I said one or the other before, but that was in reference to whoever wants to push for both. Offering both contradicts each other and it makes them look bad.
2. You just forgot to mention that astronauts were at one point in time fetus' themselves.
