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sundin13 on 20 April 2019
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John2290 said:
sundin13 said:

Comparing a child wearing a dress despite being born male to a child drinking alcohol or potentially dying, shows to me fairly clearly that you think that non-physical transitioning as is being discussed here is damaging. This is a position that you have still have yet to support (while those disagreeing with you have supported their positions). Making these comparisons is utilizing a false dichotomy to support a line of thinking that you still have not supported without devolving into fallacies.

Look at the suicide rate and I will ask you again. Please ask me intents form of a question instead of framing the words for me, words I did not say. I will not reply to strawmanning.

Bringing up the suicide rates of transgendered individuals is one of the purest forms of bad faith argumentation you can encounter in the wild.

Yes, transgendered individuals have a high suicide rate. Transgendered individuals are also widely abused, mistreated, attacked, insulted, misgendered and denied their identity. We should not use a high suicide rate of transgendered individuals as an excuse to deny the identity of transgendered individuals because that is a huge part of the reason there is a high suicide rate with these individuals in the first place. It is simply affirming the mistreatment of these individuals.

I'll also say this. If you do not intend to express the things that I am taking out of your posts, than I am glad. Feel free to insist that I am reading too deeply into some of this. However, I will say that much of what you've posted reads like concern trolling and dog whistles. It reads like a shallow disguise painted over bigotry, which says all it needs, in order to reinforce said bigotry while simultaneously shielding itself from criticism of that bigotry. As I read more from you, this feeling does not subside. As such, I will continue to respond to these posts in a manner which addresses the issues that I have with these lines of logic. You do not have to acknowledge them if you don't feel them to be relevant, but due to the possibility of these feeling being correct, I do not believe they should go unchallenged.