o_O.Q said:
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I'm not interested in going back and forth with you, so lets drop some of those ideological topics and go back to where this discussion began.
1) You imply the character design is a reflection of how woman perceive and idealise themselves. Thus female and male characters are equivalents and equals in how they're created.
You: "people who are infested with the equality doctrine just dishonesty hand wave this away as "male power fantasy" without acknowledging that to be sexy and to be desired is an ideal for women just as much as being strong and powerful is an ideal for men"
I argue character design of both male and female characters is about male fantasy primarily and thus is unbalanced. I challenge your notion by asking you how female characters derived from a female team would look. By your logic, it would be just as sexualised because woman's fantasy's are to be desired.
Me: "How would a predominantly female team design their rooster of female characters?"
You: "i don't care, i'm not a sexist so it doesn't matter to me what sex a designer is"
......As a non-sexist maybe we can put more stock on arguments brought up actual woman and look to their own works for examples of how they'd like to be represented.
2. Yes sexualisation is about intent, and it is distinct from "sexuality".
You: "you seem to be arguing here that sexuality is about intent"
Sexuality is not about intent but sexualisation is, no one is trying to dictate your sexuality. I'm sure you're understand "sexualisation" in another context. Its a not problem that a video game has young underage characters in traditional swimwear during a beach scene. Its a problem that the camera pivots up their legs to sexualise them or that the designers alter the design of the swimwear to introduce a sexual context, sexualisation is the attempt to present something as a sexual object. In the less extreme case, we're looking at adult characters like SF5, its absolutely fair that people may find it off putting that all female character seem to first be designed around being objectified as sexual objects.
Now when discussing adult characters, that can be ok, there's a time and place for everything. It doesn't have to be that serious. But then please don't make arguments that the male characters are designed with equal mentality in mind or reducing valid critic to "toxic femininity".
