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EricHiggin on 05 November 2018
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Machiavellian said:
EricHiggin said:

Depends on your beliefs. Some people believe only the person who said it first should be totally guilty, some think the initiator should be more at fault but everyone is guilty to some degree, some think everyone is equally guilty, and some think only the act committer is guilty. I think everything factors into it one way or another. Just because someone 'said it first' doesn't necessarily mean they didn't learn or interpret that from something else that someone said or wrote before. How far back do we go? Just because someone takes action, doesn't mean they were specifically told to, or interpreted the meaning incorrectly.

I'm just saying to try and put complete blame on someone for saying something doesn't seem overly logical. I've been told/taught many things in my life, yet I don't do/follow many of them, since I don't agree and think they aren't useful or productive. Not everyone is like me though. So do we let everyone make up their own minds and hope for the best, or do we lead everyone by strict rules, or do we try and find a balance and just deal with the odd issue from time to time?

This is the problem.  You are still trying to rationalize what others would do to a direct question that I asked what would you do.  I will ask again, would YOU consider if a person tells someone to kill your kids equally to blame for the person killing your kids.  A lot of things change when it's personal.  We can always find some way to rationalize what some mythical other person would do.

As to another question that is direct to you and no rationalizing what others might do, are you saying that no matter what anyone says, if acts of violence is done because they promoted it they do not share any blame.

You have to be more specific about the exact situation. Who said it? Were they the first? Did they get the idea from elsewhere? Did they have a reason to say that because of me? Did the person who did the crime plan on doing it anyway beforehand? Did the killer have a reason to do so because of me? Did the killer get anything else out of it, like money, and from who exactly? How many times has the killer committed a crime? Etc.

I don't necessarily think every single situation should fall under the exact same conclusion.