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o_O.Q said:
specialk said:
The Catholic church as an organization has done some pretty horrific things. The most recent is the sex abuse scandal, of course.

Cardinal Law protected and enable pedophiles and the Pope gave him a new post just a few years after he resigned. I'm not at all convinced that they've learned their lesson and addressed the problem.

Mormons have been brought up in this thread too. I have no issues with any individual Mormon or any individual Catholic. The Catholic Church and the LDS Church victimize people though. It's okay, and even necessary, to point that out.

"The Catholic church as an organization has done some pretty horrific things. "

the catholic church did not create nuclear weapons... the scientific community did... and they are the greatest threat to mankind and i'd argue that they should never have been created

actually when it comes down to it - uranium depleted rounds, biological weapons, hollow points, pipe bombs, napalm etc etc etc who developed these threats to humanity? the church or the scientific community?

But the scientific community "as an organization" did not do these things. There was no mandate from on high that all scientists must adhere to and make weapons. There are just scientists that do. Not the same things as the catholic church as an organization shuttling around pedophiles and keeping them from justice or making the AIDS crisis worse by telling people in Africa they can't use condoms. 



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