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mornelithe said:
KungKras said:
 

I thought you jumped in to defend the guy that was saying that Sweden is a rape captial. Noone in sweden except SD sympathisers say that. And for good reason. Sorry if I got that wrong.

I was asking you if those were the points you were making, I wasn't saying those were your positions. If you want to discuss, I made a lot of points in my previous comment. I thought I made a pretty good case for my positions.

 



Well, I guess me replying to your replying to someone else is certainly confusing.  So, for that I do apologize.  I was merely attempting to draw you back into civil discussion over what is certainly an issue, by providing a video with actual evidence and a more civil tone.  I don't think it's as simple as spreading them out over X area, because for one, you'd be restricting their movement.  Ergo, if they wanted to group together (which many migrants do desire the comfort of those of their own culture or religious affiliation, NY's Polish, and Yiddish neighborhoods, for example), you can't just tell them no or you're walking into a whole other hill of beans(I'd start to be suspicious if I felt the Government was purposefully restricting individuals like me from living in/near each other).  For another, with the volume of people we're talking about here (and this is a broader issue than just refugees, btw) makes that rather difficult down the line.

As I indicated earlier, reformmation of Islam is absolutely integral to solving this issue.  It not only helps those traveling/living abroad, but increases the quality of life for those currently oppressed under these regimes.  Beyond that, I'm not entirely sure.

Thanks for that. I really prefer this kind of discussion. I think reformation of Islam is important too.

Yes it's not as easy as just forcing people to live where the government  wants them to live. The problem today is that immigrants concentrate in the cheapest neighbourhoods in cities leading to even cheaper rents, culture clashes poverty and crime. What makes the problem bigger is that certain communes don't accept refugees at all.

The solution is to make every commune responsible for taking in refugees. And most importantly built the refugee camps away from the big cities. There is only one point where refugees can't choose where to go, and that is when they are assigned a refugee camp to stay at. If you build many small camps in the smaller cities and also in the north of the country, people will tend to stay where the infrastructure is in place to help them. If they get a job, they're also less likely to move into the big cities. Their kids will still have to go to school because it's illegal to keep children from going to school. If they're in a place where there are no immigrant heavy neightbourhoods, the kids will all naturally mix with the population in school.

To get back to your reformation point. The best way to combat radical islam is to create ex-muslims or secular muslims. And even if we're doing a bad integration job at the moment, 15% of second generation musims aren't really religious. Imagine if we did a good job.





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