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Forums - Sony Discussion - PS5 Coming at the End of 2020 According to Analyst: High-Spec Hardware for Under $500

 

Price, SKUs, specs ?

Only Base Model, $399, 9-10TF GPU, 16GB RAM 24 30.00%
 
Only Base Model, $449, 10-12TF GPU, 16GB RAM 13 16.25%
 
Only Base Model, $499, 12-14TF GPU, 24GB RAM 21 26.25%
 
Base Model $399 and PREMIUM $499 specs Ans3 10 12.50%
 
Base Mod $399 / PREM $549, >14TF 24GB RAM 5 6.25%
 
Base Mod $449 / PREM $599, the absolute Elite 7 8.75%
 
Total:80

In other news, water is wet.

At least it isn't Patcher or other know jinxers.



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Shiken said:
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
They should look to have a huge launch exclusive (not crossgen a true next gen must have since there are so many PS4s out there less people would want to buy for it). Naughty Dog has had since Uncharted 4 in 2016 so 4 years should be enough to maybe get a new IP for a new gen right? Or maybe Horizon 2 from Guerrilla? Idk but something big and exclusive and at launch. Also they should launch in October at the latest. Get those launch preorders out of the way then get that second surge come holidays. Gotta get those first couple million outta the way to make it a holiday rush to get them when they restock.

I think releaseing GoT, Death Stranding, and TLoU2 as a cross gen release set (seeing how they have already been announced for PS4) and Horizon 2 as a PS5 exclusive at launch would pretty much destroy the competition.  A teaser of the next God of War would for PS5 would help drive hype as well.

 

Sony is in a very good spot as far as software line up goes IMO.  If they play their cards right, it could blow PS4 sales out of the water.

Yeah God of War, Spidey 2, and others should definitely be saved for post launch.  Sony should aim to have a big exclusive every quarter.  If they release in November like they probably will then they should have one big exclusive to go with it.  Then something in March, then something in June, then something in September, then something November again.  Just keep it scheduled.  I don't like when they roll 2 in real close like GoW and Detroit kinda did.  One ends up overshadowing the other.  If they release in September like I would want then just move em all back 2 months from what I said.  A nice steady pace



I am Iron Man

Hopefully 'under 500' isn't $499.



konnichiwa said:
Honestly I would not be surprised if they release two consoles with one being 599 with higher specs. You have a market for people who want to spend more for a 'Beefy console'

What's the point. The ps4 Pro sold big numbers despite being weaker then the X. It's just a waste of power that most devs won't take advantage of because they need to facilitate the lowest common denominator. 



499 hardware optimized for its purpose at end of 2020 can provide an outstanding machine, specs wise. CPU would be the biggesti improvement.
If not focusing in native 4k, the games can be even more impressive not usng it (you get a 4k checkerborded (or even better solutions) with half of the processing power, native now seems a waste).

MS might go in the same route, a 500$ beafy console, but also has a second option, very cheap mini console or echo dot like (below 100$, including controller). Plays all Xbox games on the cloud(old, new, etc). With also versions for IoS, android and switch under some subscription.
And then I feel MS will never push many hardware to compete to Sony, but its services will generate more and more revenue than ever

And as for switch, in these 2 years we might see a revision. Id bet on a mini first, we are on the verge of pokemon gen 8 and animal crossing



Pemalite said:
Evilms said:

A 1080 with console optimization will be more than enough to do better than the PC version. remember J.Carmack :

https://twitter.com/id_aa_carmack/status/50277106856370176?lang=fr

Playstation 4 really isn't doing double the output of a Radeon 7850/560 though... But roughly the expected line, slightly better. So Carmack is certainly wrong.

I mean shit. The Radeon 7950 can do Battlefield 5 with high settings, 60fps... Which is better than the Playstation 4 and it's not anywhere near double the performance, more like 30-50%.

So u r saying an SoC equivalent to 7850 paired with Jaquar CPU technically an APU clocked at 1.6 is on par with PS4? .. and again 7950 paired with a mobile Jaquar CPU clocked at 1.6 will run Battlefield 5, High Setting, at 60fps?



Random_Matt said:
Hardly call 1080 levels of performance high end, but fair enough.

1080 (non-Ti) is also about what I expect them to reach with Navi GPU technology. We don't know very much about them yet, but I doubt more than 40% increase over the GPU in the One X will be feasible without overheating the small console cases.



taus90 said:
Pemalite said:

Playstation 4 really isn't doing double the output of a Radeon 7850/560 though... But roughly the expected line, slightly better. So Carmack is certainly wrong.

I mean shit. The Radeon 7950 can do Battlefield 5 with high settings, 60fps... Which is better than the Playstation 4 and it's not anywhere near double the performance, more like 30-50%.

So u r saying an SoC equivalent to 7850 paired with Jaquar CPU technically an APU clocked at 1.6 is on par with PS4? .. and again 7950 paired with a mobile Jaquar CPU clocked at 1.6 will run Battlefield 5, High Setting, at 60fps?

Well, there's no 8-core Jaguar, but what you can do is take a Bulldozer chip like the FX-8100 and clock it down a bit. An FX-8100@2.5Ghz plus a 7950 would roughly be able to do the same numbers as a PS4 with the same settings despite not being that much more powerful



The curious thing is that first impressions mean everything. Xbone's was negative and it never really recovered from it. Wii u's was confusion and it never recovered. Switch and ps4's were hype and they are still hype. So if Sony get arrogant and do something stupid when they announce the PS4, which is definitely a possibility, then the games won't matter as much and the ps5 might be another PS3. Remember sony is the company who arguably has a worse failure in PS3 than Nintendo has in Wii U even though PS3 sold way more because Nintendo still turned a small profit by the end and stayed close to constant while Sony lost a lot in those years. So you never really know which Sony will show up for the ps5. I hope it's the one we saw at the start of the PS4 and Sony hit it out of the park since it's good for gaming. Same with neXtbox. At this point I don't really care about specs except as a tech enthusiast since games look good enough for me. But they do need to up their game in CPU instead of GPU so we can have more and smarter AI and NPCS, etc. At this point CPU is far more important for growth in my opinion but it's not as flashy as GPUs so from a marketing standpoint, it might not work but from a gaming standpoint, it's better to focus on the one defect you really have in all modern consoles



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If its powerfull ( more than 2* PS4 pro)and with BC at least to PS4 im ready to go up to 500€. 2020 Im ready