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Attoyou on 03 February 2010
joshin69 said:
Attoyou said:
joshin69 said:
Attoyou
Im sorry but that just sounds like a spoilt brat having a tandrum to me. " I want it and i want it now or i will throw my toys out of the pram"

Why should I wait THIS Long then pay $60 For a game that probably wont be much better or better at all then whats already out ? (Forza3) Might as well Wait for Forza 4!


Why should you wait for anything! If its not any better to your mind, dont buy it. bloody simple. If you rate Forza 3, why get to upset about GT5 being delayed. The best ive got to race at the mo is Grid and Dirt2 yet im happy to wait. There are more than anough great games around at the moment.

Lol What ? oh well never mind , if they push it back to 2011 , im not going to bother with it , will wait for other games



Atto Suggests...:

Book - Malazan Book of the Fallen series 

Game - Metro Last Light

TV - Deadwood

Music - Forest Swords 

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joshin69 on 03 February 2010

if they push it back to 2011 and it turns out to be shit...their loss. if its great i will buy it. hate to use such a word but, simples



 

 assumption is the mother of all f**k ups 

Kasz216 on 03 February 2010
sabby_e17 said:
andremop said:

Sony is kinda dumb with this franchise, in my opinion.
Which made more money this gen: Halo or GT?

Let's see... GT -> One 4million+ seller prologue game (GT5:P) sold at a lower price, plus a possible 10 million seller (GT5)

against...

Halo -> One 11 million+ seller (Halo3), plus one 2 million+ seller RTS game (Halo Wars), plus one semi expansion pack with 6 million+ sales (Halo: ODST), plus ANOTHER possible 10 million seller (Halo Reach), plus toys, plus books, plus animations...

Mario -> Well, i could enumerate everything, but let's just say: Lots and lots of money.

Damn, Sony flagship franchise gives back so much less than the others (Mario and Halo) it's ridiculous.

You got it so wrong.

Is GT a series that you can release in short bursts aka milk? No. Can you release GT toys? Hell no. But what you can do with GT is set up tournaments. Famous racers from all over the world race in this GT championship thing. It's a totally different thing.

No, you can release GT in short bursts and milk it.

That's exactly what the prologue series is.



joshin69 on 04 February 2010
Kasz216 said:
sabby_e17 said:
andremop said:

Sony is kinda dumb with this franchise, in my opinion.
Which made more money this gen: Halo or GT?

Let's see... GT -> One 4million+ seller prologue game (GT5:P) sold at a lower price, plus a possible 10 million seller (GT5)

against...

Halo -> One 11 million+ seller (Halo3), plus one 2 million+ seller RTS game (Halo Wars), plus one semi expansion pack with 6 million+ sales (Halo: ODST), plus ANOTHER possible 10 million seller (Halo Reach), plus toys, plus books, plus animations...

Mario -> Well, i could enumerate everything, but let's just say: Lots and lots of money.

Damn, Sony flagship franchise gives back so much less than the others (Mario and Halo) it's ridiculous.

You got it so wrong.

Is GT a series that you can release in short bursts aka milk? No. Can you release GT toys? Hell no. But what you can do with GT is set up tournaments. Famous racers from all over the world race in this GT championship thing. It's a totally different thing.

No, you can release GT in short bursts and milk it.

That's exactly what the prologue series is.


When was prologue released? Dam short bursts that!!



 

 assumption is the mother of all f**k ups 

Kasz216 on 04 February 2010
joshin69 said:
Kasz216 said:
sabby_e17 said:
andremop said:

Sony is kinda dumb with this franchise, in my opinion.
Which made more money this gen: Halo or GT?

Let's see... GT -> One 4million+ seller prologue game (GT5:P) sold at a lower price, plus a possible 10 million seller (GT5)

against...

Halo -> One 11 million+ seller (Halo3), plus one 2 million+ seller RTS game (Halo Wars), plus one semi expansion pack with 6 million+ sales (Halo: ODST), plus ANOTHER possible 10 million seller (Halo Reach), plus toys, plus books, plus animations...

Mario -> Well, i could enumerate everything, but let's just say: Lots and lots of money.

Damn, Sony flagship franchise gives back so much less than the others (Mario and Halo) it's ridiculous.

You got it so wrong.

Is GT a series that you can release in short bursts aka milk? No. Can you release GT toys? Hell no. But what you can do with GT is set up tournaments. Famous racers from all over the world race in this GT championship thing. It's a totally different thing.

No, you can release GT in short bursts and milk it.

That's exactly what the prologue series is.


When was prologue released? Dam short bursts that!!

The prologue series are the short bursts.

They're the game being released before the Final game is realsed.

 

Your seriously trying to tell me that something like HALO: REACH or HALO: ODST(? I don't actually like halo.)  are more "milking" then the prologue series?

The Prologue series which are basically incomplete versions of a game that's being released later versus the Halo games which have new content?

Someone buying ODST got an expansion game to Halo 3... but at least they gont content different from Halo 3.

 

People who buy Prologue get no content special to prologue... all the GT team did was realease "what they had so far".

 

 

Furthermore their were 4 GT games released last generation... 6 if you count special Japanese versions (which i'd say was milking.)


VS 4 Halo games so far this generation.  The difference being that all the Halo games offered different expierences... while half the GT games were redundant.

 

GT is a much more milked franchise then Halo.



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joshin69 on 04 February 2010
Kasz216 said:
joshin69 said:
Kasz216 said:
sabby_e17 said:
andremop said:

Sony is kinda dumb with this franchise, in my opinion.
Which made more money this gen: Halo or GT?

Let's see... GT -> One 4million+ seller prologue game (GT5:P) sold at a lower price, plus a possible 10 million seller (GT5)

against...

Halo -> One 11 million+ seller (Halo3), plus one 2 million+ seller RTS game (Halo Wars), plus one semi expansion pack with 6 million+ sales (Halo: ODST), plus ANOTHER possible 10 million seller (Halo Reach), plus toys, plus books, plus animations...

Mario -> Well, i could enumerate everything, but let's just say: Lots and lots of money.

Damn, Sony flagship franchise gives back so much less than the others (Mario and Halo) it's ridiculous.

You got it so wrong.

Is GT a series that you can release in short bursts aka milk? No. Can you release GT toys? Hell no. But what you can do with GT is set up tournaments. Famous racers from all over the world race in this GT championship thing. It's a totally different thing.

No, you can release GT in short bursts and milk it.

That's exactly what the prologue series is.


When was prologue released? Dam short bursts that!!

The prologue series are the short bursts.

They're the game being released before the Final game is realsed.

 Your seriously trying to tell me that something like HALO: REACH or HALO: ODST(? I don't actually like halo.)  are more "milking" then the prologue series?
The Prologue series which are basically incomplete versions of a game that's being released later versus the Halo games which have new content?
Someone buying ODST got an expansion game to Halo 3... but at least they gont content different from Halo 3.People who buy Prologue get no content special to prologue... all the GT team did was realease "what they had so far".Furthermore their were 4 GT games released last generation... 6 if you count special Japanese versions (which i'd say was milking.)VS 4 Halo games so far this generation.  The difference being that all the Halo games offered different expierences... while half the GT games were redundant.

GT is a much more milked franchise then Halo.

Globally in 12 years, 6 GT games have been released. For Halo in 9 years, 5 have been released. I would say Halo was the more milked but by very little. Add in Reach and GT5 this year Halo starts to stand out as the chedder (milk based product). I have'nt included GT psp as this is not a console game but you can include it if you wish.



 

 assumption is the mother of all f**k ups 

Kasz216 on 04 February 2010
joshin69 said:
Kasz216 said:
joshin69 said:
Kasz216 said:
sabby_e17 said:
andremop said:

Sony is kinda dumb with this franchise, in my opinion.
Which made more money this gen: Halo or GT?

Let's see... GT -> One 4million+ seller prologue game (GT5:P) sold at a lower price, plus a possible 10 million seller (GT5)

against...

Halo -> One 11 million+ seller (Halo3), plus one 2 million+ seller RTS game (Halo Wars), plus one semi expansion pack with 6 million+ sales (Halo: ODST), plus ANOTHER possible 10 million seller (Halo Reach), plus toys, plus books, plus animations...

Mario -> Well, i could enumerate everything, but let's just say: Lots and lots of money.

Damn, Sony flagship franchise gives back so much less than the others (Mario and Halo) it's ridiculous.

You got it so wrong.

Is GT a series that you can release in short bursts aka milk? No. Can you release GT toys? Hell no. But what you can do with GT is set up tournaments. Famous racers from all over the world race in this GT championship thing. It's a totally different thing.

No, you can release GT in short bursts and milk it.

That's exactly what the prologue series is.


When was prologue released? Dam short bursts that!!

The prologue series are the short bursts.

They're the game being released before the Final game is realsed.

 Your seriously trying to tell me that something like HALO: REACH or HALO: ODST(? I don't actually like halo.)  are more "milking" then the prologue series?
The Prologue series which are basically incomplete versions of a game that's being released later versus the Halo games which have new content?
Someone buying ODST got an expansion game to Halo 3... but at least they gont content different from Halo 3.People who buy Prologue get no content special to prologue... all the GT team did was realease "what they had so far".Furthermore their were 4 GT games released last generation... 6 if you count special Japanese versions (which i'd say was milking.)VS 4 Halo games so far this generation.  The difference being that all the Halo games offered different expierences... while half the GT games were redundant.

GT is a much more milked franchise then Halo.

Globally in 12 years, 6 GT games have been released. For Halo in 9 years, 5 have been released. I would say Halo was the more milked but by very little. Add in Reach and GT5 this year Halo starts to stand out as the chedder (milk based product). I have'nt included GT psp as this is not a console game but you can include it if you wish.

That's completly disengenious though, since it includes this generation, which only is "less milked" because GT5 has been delayed 2-3 times already.

They should be about to release a GT6 prologue if they were on scheudle.



joshin69 on 04 February 2010
Kasz216 said:
joshin69 said:
Kasz216 said:
joshin69 said:
Kasz216 said:
sabby_e17 said:
andremop said:

Sony is kinda dumb with this franchise, in my opinion.
Which made more money this gen: Halo or GT?

Let's see... GT -> One 4million+ seller prologue game (GT5:P) sold at a lower price, plus a possible 10 million seller (GT5)

against...

Halo -> One 11 million+ seller (Halo3), plus one 2 million+ seller RTS game (Halo Wars), plus one semi expansion pack with 6 million+ sales (Halo: ODST), plus ANOTHER possible 10 million seller (Halo Reach), plus toys, plus books, plus animations...

Mario -> Well, i could enumerate everything, but let's just say: Lots and lots of money.

Damn, Sony flagship franchise gives back so much less than the others (Mario and Halo) it's ridiculous.

You got it so wrong.

Is GT a series that you can release in short bursts aka milk? No. Can you release GT toys? Hell no. But what you can do with GT is set up tournaments. Famous racers from all over the world race in this GT championship thing. It's a totally different thing.

No, you can release GT in short bursts and milk it.

That's exactly what the prologue series is.


When was prologue released? Dam short bursts that!!

The prologue series are the short bursts.

They're the game being released before the Final game is realsed.

 Your seriously trying to tell me that something like HALO: REACH or HALO: ODST(? I don't actually like halo.)  are more "milking" then the prologue series?
The Prologue series which are basically incomplete versions of a game that's being released later versus the Halo games which have new content?
Someone buying ODST got an expansion game to Halo 3... but at least they gont content different from Halo 3.People who buy Prologue get no content special to prologue... all the GT team did was realease "what they had so far".Furthermore their were 4 GT games released last generation... 6 if you count special Japanese versions (which i'd say was milking.)VS 4 Halo games so far this generation.  The difference being that all the Halo games offered different expierences... while half the GT games were redundant.

GT is a much more milked franchise then Halo.

Globally in 12 years, 6 GT games have been released. For Halo in 9 years, 5 have been released. I would say Halo was the more milked but by very little. Add in Reach and GT5 this year Halo starts to stand out as the chedder (milk based product). I have'nt included GT psp as this is not a console game but you can include it if you wish.

That's completly disengenious though, since it includes this generation, which only is "less milked" because GT5 has been delayed 2-3 times already.

They should be about to release a GT6 prologue if they were on scheudle.

They will be what, 8 months behind the only release date they have officially stated. You are dealing in what ifs and maybes not actual reality. They are both milked but come on, to state GT is much more milked than Halo is clearly rubbish. Halo wars? come on.



 

 assumption is the mother of all f**k ups 

Kasz216 on 04 February 2010
joshin69 said:
Kasz216 said:
joshin69 said:
Kasz216 said:
joshin69 said:
Kasz216 said:
sabby_e17 said:
andremop said:

Sony is kinda dumb with this franchise, in my opinion.
Which made more money this gen: Halo or GT?

Let's see... GT -> One 4million+ seller prologue game (GT5:P) sold at a lower price, plus a possible 10 million seller (GT5)

against...

Halo -> One 11 million+ seller (Halo3), plus one 2 million+ seller RTS game (Halo Wars), plus one semi expansion pack with 6 million+ sales (Halo: ODST), plus ANOTHER possible 10 million seller (Halo Reach), plus toys, plus books, plus animations...

Mario -> Well, i could enumerate everything, but let's just say: Lots and lots of money.

Damn, Sony flagship franchise gives back so much less than the others (Mario and Halo) it's ridiculous.

You got it so wrong.

Is GT a series that you can release in short bursts aka milk? No. Can you release GT toys? Hell no. But what you can do with GT is set up tournaments. Famous racers from all over the world race in this GT championship thing. It's a totally different thing.

No, you can release GT in short bursts and milk it.

That's exactly what the prologue series is.


When was prologue released? Dam short bursts that!!

The prologue series are the short bursts.

They're the game being released before the Final game is realsed.

 Your seriously trying to tell me that something like HALO: REACH or HALO: ODST(? I don't actually like halo.)  are more "milking" then the prologue series?
The Prologue series which are basically incomplete versions of a game that's being released later versus the Halo games which have new content?
Someone buying ODST got an expansion game to Halo 3... but at least they gont content different from Halo 3.People who buy Prologue get no content special to prologue... all the GT team did was realease "what they had so far".Furthermore their were 4 GT games released last generation... 6 if you count special Japanese versions (which i'd say was milking.)VS 4 Halo games so far this generation.  The difference being that all the Halo games offered different expierences... while half the GT games were redundant.

GT is a much more milked franchise then Halo.

Globally in 12 years, 6 GT games have been released. For Halo in 9 years, 5 have been released. I would say Halo was the more milked but by very little. Add in Reach and GT5 this year Halo starts to stand out as the chedder (milk based product). I have'nt included GT psp as this is not a console game but you can include it if you wish.

That's completly disengenious though, since it includes this generation, which only is "less milked" because GT5 has been delayed 2-3 times already.

They should be about to release a GT6 prologue if they were on scheudle.

They will be what, 8 months behind the only release date they have officially stated. You are dealing in what ifs and maybes not actual reality. They are both milked but come on, to state GT is much more milked than Halo is clearly rubbish. Halo wars? come on.

Something doesn't have to be "officially stated" to be delayed.

GT clearly is more milked than Halo.

Halo Wars was a complety different kind of game the Halo 3.

Now Gran Turismo 5 Prologue... how much of that game was extra work that wouldn't have had to be done anyway?

A couple menus... maybe?



joshin69 on 04 February 2010
Kasz216 said:
joshin69 said:
Kasz216 said:
joshin69 said:
Kasz216 said:
joshin69 said:
Kasz216 said:
sabby_e17 said:
andremop said:

Sony is kinda dumb with this franchise, in my opinion.
Which made more money this gen: Halo or GT?

Let's see... GT -> One 4million+ seller prologue game (GT5:P) sold at a lower price, plus a possible 10 million seller (GT5)

against...

Halo -> One 11 million+ seller (Halo3), plus one 2 million+ seller RTS game (Halo Wars), plus one semi expansion pack with 6 million+ sales (Halo: ODST), plus ANOTHER possible 10 million seller (Halo Reach), plus toys, plus books, plus animations...

Mario -> Well, i could enumerate everything, but let's just say: Lots and lots of money.

Damn, Sony flagship franchise gives back so much less than the others (Mario and Halo) it's ridiculous.

You got it so wrong.

Is GT a series that you can release in short bursts aka milk? No. Can you release GT toys? Hell no. But what you can do with GT is set up tournaments. Famous racers from all over the world race in this GT championship thing. It's a totally different thing.

No, you can release GT in short bursts and milk it.

That's exactly what the prologue series is.


When was prologue released? Dam short bursts that!!

The prologue series are the short bursts.

They're the game being released before the Final game is realsed.

 Your seriously trying to tell me that something like HALO: REACH or HALO: ODST(? I don't actually like halo.)  are more "milking" then the prologue series?
The Prologue series which are basically incomplete versions of a game that's being released later versus the Halo games which have new content?
Someone buying ODST got an expansion game to Halo 3... but at least they gont content different from Halo 3.People who buy Prologue get no content special to prologue... all the GT team did was realease "what they had so far".Furthermore their were 4 GT games released last generation... 6 if you count special Japanese versions (which i'd say was milking.)VS 4 Halo games so far this generation.  The difference being that all the Halo games offered different expierences... while half the GT games were redundant.

GT is a much more milked franchise then Halo.

Globally in 12 years, 6 GT games have been released. For Halo in 9 years, 5 have been released. I would say Halo was the more milked but by very little. Add in Reach and GT5 this year Halo starts to stand out as the chedder (milk based product). I have'nt included GT psp as this is not a console game but you can include it if you wish.

That's completly disengenious though, since it includes this generation, which only is "less milked" because GT5 has been delayed 2-3 times already.

They should be about to release a GT6 prologue if they were on scheudle.

They will be what, 8 months behind the only release date they have officially stated. You are dealing in what ifs and maybes not actual reality. They are both milked but come on, to state GT is much more milked than Halo is clearly rubbish. Halo wars? come on.

Something doesn't have to be "officially stated" to be delayed.

GT clearly is more milked than Halo.

Halo Wars was a complety different kind of game the Halo 3.

Now Gran Turismo 5 Prologue... how much of that game was extra work that wouldn't have had to be done anyway?

A couple menus... maybe?


Ah, you are saying it would have sold regardless of whether the word Halo was in the title or not? Both prologues were not add ons but tasters which cost half the amount of a full priced game. tasters of games that have or will be released well after a year. sure that's milking but not to the extent of making an RTS and slapping halo on the cover. And yes a date for release of a game has to be announced then missed for it to be delayed.



 

 assumption is the mother of all f**k ups