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FootballFan on 04 February 2010

Jesus....I thought this would be a good topic of interesting discussion. People are entitled to their opinions, lets keep them resonable.



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Rath on 04 February 2010
dsister44 said:
Rath said:
dsister44 said:

Tell me. What is the topic of this thread? And how did this thread turn out?

To quote myself earlier

"It was about a specific church in a specific religion, and not the followers but the organisation itself.

Thats like saying that if I don't like President Obama then I think all people who like democracy are morons."

 

It wasn't about bashing religious people or saying they were dumb, retarded idiots like he claims it was. It was and still actually is almost entirely about the Catholic churches (specifically the Popes) stance on gays and gay rights.

From what I understood about the OP is that the Pope is against the government saying that they have to hire gay people.(Correct me if I am wrong). Then this thread turned basically into Catholic bashing.  I have seen maybe 5 posts that were actually on topic 

There is a difference between posting about the Pope and the Catholic church and 'Catholic bashing'. They're attacking an organisation and its leader's position on issue. Not attacking people who are Catholics.

Also part of the OP also was about his quote that it's against "natural law" to be gay, which is what a lot of posts have been based around.



dsister44 on 04 February 2010
FootballFan said:
Jesus....I thought this would be a good topic of interesting discussion. People are entitled to their opinions, lets keep them resonable.

Did you really just say this after this post?



dsister44 on 04 February 2010
Rath said:
dsister44 said:

From what I understood about the OP is that the Pope is against the government saying that they have to hire gay people.(Correct me if I am wrong). Then this thread turned basically into Catholic bashing.  I have seen maybe 5 posts that were actually on topic 

There is a difference between posting about the Pope and the Catholic church and 'Catholic bashing'. They're attacking an organisation and its leader's position on issue. Not attacking people who are Catholics.

Also part of the OP also was about his quote that it's against "natural law" to be gay, which is what a lot of posts have been based around.

So you are attacking the Catholic Church, and their leader, but you aren't bashing them... I can't see why anyone would be against that



FootballFan on 04 February 2010
dsister44 said:
FootballFan said:
Jesus....I thought this would be a good topic of interesting discussion. People are entitled to their opinions, lets keep them resonable.

Did you really just say this after this post?

Sorry about that :-/

 

I apologise, i was out of order. But, it was kind of a response to an attack on a certian type of person. Not that thats an excuse.



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BladeOfGod on 04 February 2010

Every time when some religious community or people say something bad or wrong it gets posted on this web site. but when some religious community or people say/do something good and right nobody talks about it here. obviously, people are just posting negative news about religion here to make it look bad because they dont believe in it.



bimmylee on 04 February 2010
damkira said:
@bimmylee

and some people are sterile to begin with. I said homosexuality was a variation of human sexuality. Everyone in the world is not homosexual, and will never be. So you're basically condemning a group of people based upon a hypothetical scenerio?

Nope, never condemned anyone at all. Just saying it's an abnormality.



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Rath on 04 February 2010
BladeOfGod said:
Every time when some religious community or people say something bad or wrong it gets posted on this web site. but when some religious community or people say/do something good and right nobody talks about it here. obviously, people are just posting negative news about religion here to make it look bad because they dont believe in it.

Actually I said in this very topic how awesome I think it is that my uncle and his husband are both vicars in the Church of England, I'm an atheist but I still can respect it when a church does something pretty awesome.



bimmylee on 04 February 2010
stof said:
@ bimmylee - If everyone in the world were suddenly homosexual, fertilization clinics and sperm bank business would boom and the world would keep on chugging just fine.

Homosexuality means you prefer the physical and emotional relations of the same sex. It doesn't mean your physically incapable of breeding.

You missed the part where I mentioned that reproduction is a key function for "all creatures"... plants and animals included. Notice that homosexual animals are eliminated from the gene pool because they can't reproduce, and they are in the unfortunate predicament of not having animal fertilization clinics or animal sperm banks. For them, it certainly does mean that they are incapable of breeding; you won't be able to convince a homosexual animal to behave otherwise. You do bring up a good point when you say that humans have the means of getting around this issue; this can lead us to only one of two conclusions:

A) We are not animals. (This opens up a whole new can of worms, as you might imagine.)

OR

B) We are animals, but for some inexplicable reason, we are capable of contradicting essential psychological behaviors that allow animals to survive.



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highwaystar101 on 04 February 2010
bimmylee said:
stof said:
@ bimmylee - If everyone in the world were suddenly homosexual, fertilization clinics and sperm bank business would boom and the world would keep on chugging just fine.

Homosexuality means you prefer the physical and emotional relations of the same sex. It doesn't mean your physically incapable of breeding.

You missed the part where I mentioned that reproduction is a key function for "all creatures"... plants and animals included. Notice that homosexual animals are eliminated from the gene pool because they can't reproduce, and they are in the unfortunate predicament of not having animal fertilization clinics or animal sperm banks. For them, it certainly does mean that they are incapable of breeding; you won't be able to convince a homosexual animal to behave otherwise. You do bring up a good point when you say that humans have the means of getting around this issue; this can lead us to only one of two conclusions:

A) We are not animals. (This opens up a whole new can of worms, as you might imagine.)

OR

B) We are animals, but for some inexplicable reason, we are capable of contradicting essential psychological behaviors that allow animals to survive.

Humans are animals, just sayin'...

Anyway, on topic. Are you suggesting that animals can't be gay? Try telling that to my extremely gay dog Oliver lol.