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trashleg on 10 February 2010
zexen_lowe said:
trashleg said:

Okay, Vetteman94 first (i'll do therepublic later if you don't mind because this was very time-consuming)

FoS: WoW day 1. accused WoW of being controlling.

trangent agreed that his analysis of WoW was a good one.

Final-Fan also agreed. Final-Fan is now dead.

hatmoza agreed. hatmoza was lynched yesterday. hatmoza was anti-zexen and WoW.

nen-suer agreed, and argued with zexen. nen-suer is dead. (it was then stated by zexen that since nen-suer was dead, and nen-suer is mafia, anyone he was agreeing with is also suspicious. thing is, since there are 2 mafia families, its a possibility that zexen is in the other one, right? he wasn't to know that nen was mafia, bang. he got as big a surprise as any of us when he actually turned up mafia. dead.)

MakingMusic (me) stated that a change in WoW's habits are not necessarily a bad thing, that it looks like WoW is just trying to get people to talk "under the guise of a possible lynching"

WoW defended itself (do you mind being referred to as "itself"? i dont like the gender argument :D) and stated that hatmoza wasn't helping, and was displaying scummy behaviour. hatmoza was innocent.

Vetteman94 was VERY against going for a lynch. I'd have thought if he was mafia, he would have eventually relented and gone with the lynch of hatmoza, since it would make him fit in with everyone else.


zexen said he has "raised suspicions of [j0 and] Vetteman but "nothing [he] could quote".


and thats my summary of Vetteman. In MY opinion, he seems clean. he was against the lynch of hatmoza for what seemed like moral reasons, who turned out to be town.

a lot of people who died since the start of the game seemed to have been anti-zexen, anti-WoW or anti-both.

Trashleg, I'm surprised that as intelligent you are you're capable of writing a post as nonsensical as this (and the color makes it all the worse, DON'T EVER DO IT AGAIN)

You're accusing me of a number of deaths. Even if I were mafia (which I'm not), I'd be responsible for one of it (and indirectly, of two, if you counted hatmoza). How on earth can you suggest that I caused "many deaths". This is goes beyond what's even possible, if anything, it proves more than anything my innocence, how can I be responsible for all of them

I claimed I suspected nen, of course I did, any sane person would, and I was right. That doesn't make me of the other family, it just makes nen someone who cannot mantain a mafia cover without blowing it up.

Final-Fan was agreeing with me, and he did suspect hatmoza quite heavily besides, you seem to not even have read what he was saying. As for hatmoza, I've explained my behavior time and again, not gonna do it again.

 

Honestly, this post is simply ridiculous, it seems you're trying to bring up something to swing a few more votes to me to get a lynch so you can end the day with me gone. Sadly, trashleg, I'm afraid to inform you that'd make you mafia, because otherwise you'd have no reason to do so. I'm surprised at what you did here, but I guess sabby can wait, and thanks for confirming my FoS

 

Unvote: Sabby
Vote: Trashleg

okay, first of all. don't tell me what to do or what not to do, you're not my superior.

the above post is not nonsense, WoW asked for my thoughts on Vetteman94, this involved me reading through 900 posts (half of which i wasnt even here for in the first place and a lot of it was back-and-forward between up to several people) so I think I did not bad.

my "anti-zexen/anti-WoW" observations are nothing but that. Observations. based on what I've been reading. I did not say "TEH ZOMG ZEXY AND WoW MURDURRED THOSE FOLK COS THEY, LIKE, DISAGREED N SHIT"; I made no judgement whatsoever about it, just state the facts.

if the facts happen to agitate you so much that you lash out at me for finally playing the game you've asked all along that it be played, dear zexen, then that, IN MY OPINION, is scummy behaviour. And that would make you scum.

And you said you had "raised suspicions of j0 and Vetteman but "nothing [you] could quote". Now tell me, why would you be suspicious of them with no reason, other than to shift attention away from yourself.

a few moments ago, zexen, you seemed so sure that sabby was scum. why would you be willing to risk that all to get rid of me? you have nothing to suggest that I am scum at all, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT I'M CALLING YOU OUT NOW. I'm beginning to think you just want me out the way.



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
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trashleg on 10 February 2010
zexen_lowe said:
dtewi said:

Trashleg is throwing ideas out there, and you decide to go and vote for her because she suggested that you were the common factor in every death? No, she did not say that. She said that a lot of people were merely against you or WoW. And it is not 100% bullshit to think that like you are claiming.

I think you're defending yourself by accusing trashleg. Your reasoning is weak but you use it to vote for trashleg and garner suspicion towards her. But now you're just desperate and defensive even enough to retract your vote for someone who is more suspicious for someone else less suspicious so you don't die.

No one here suggest something just to suggest it. If she says that some people that were against me (again, debunked) are now dead, she's implying that I had to do with their deaths.

also, im quoting this because i think its utterly ridiculous. (just the bold bit)

why can't i make a suggestion JUST to have it out there? how else are we supposed to play the game - sit with our own thoughts until the opportunity arises to throw it all out there at once when we make our one vote-post of the day?

you are being ridiculous. the whole point of this Day-conversation is to make these suggestions, so we can have some sort of discussion.

its your defensiveness thats digging the hole deeper and deeper, btw. im only noting my observations and your paranoia is doing the rest. good job.



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
dtewi on 10 February 2010

Unvote: Dgc
Vote: Zexen

Seriously, that behavior was very scummy.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

zexen_lowe on 10 February 2010

You know what? After thinking this thoroughly, I've decided that it's better to stop defending myself. Lynch me if you want to (of course, if you don't, I'd like it), as when I turn up pro town, you'll have a wonderful row of suspects to fall on. When I show up as town, I ask the pro towns to question Sabby, to question Trashleg, to question Vetteman, to question c03n3nj0 (the ones I'm getting more and more convinced they're scum), and I'm sure they'll find at least three mafia there.

I think my life for the town to catch three mafia at least is a fair exchange




c03n3nj0 on 10 February 2010

I just though of something....

Zex keeps brining up he was never mafia before, right? And then everybody has been saying he's been acting very differently, right?

Well, if he's been acting really different than from earlier games him being mafia could be a good explanation...

Although, I'm a bit less suspicious of DGC now, because the idea of both being mafia backing each other up sounds weird to me, it's a bit too obvious. Although they very well can be from the different factions, but really less likely.



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ArkZero on 10 February 2010

This is getting interesting. Im not sure who I should vote.



trashleg on 10 February 2010
zexen_lowe said:

You know what? After thinking this thoroughly, I've decided that it's better to stop defending myself. Lynch me if you want to (of course, if you don't, I'd like it), as when I turn up pro town, you'll have a wonderful row of suspects to fall on. When I show up as town, I ask the pro towns to question Sabby, to question Trashleg, to question Vetteman, to question c03n3nj0 (the ones I'm getting more and more convinced they're scum), and I'm sure they'll find at least three mafia there.

I think my life for the town to catch three mafia at least is a fair exchange

People always say "when im town you'll see that so-and-so is mafia" and that makes no sense at all. Because we could all very well be townies, by chance. How you are percieved depends on your OWN actions, not anybody else's. So you can't be all scummy and then say "Oh you know what, I'm town so that means the people who were suspicious are scum."

No, I plan on constantly reviewing the situation as it changes, and suspicions change. If you're not scum, then someone else is, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all of those who suspected you are scum, it means that YOU were acting scummy.

p does not --> q.



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
SuperAdrianK on 10 February 2010

I wish someone could write a brief summary of everything...
I can't stay focus reading 5 arguements in 400 posts :/ ... I also got out of the hospital yesterday at night

but I took the Florida Comprehensive administration test... today!!!




              

zexen_lowe on 10 February 2010
trashleg said:
zexen_lowe said:

You know what? After thinking this thoroughly, I've decided that it's better to stop defending myself. Lynch me if you want to (of course, if you don't, I'd like it), as when I turn up pro town, you'll have a wonderful row of suspects to fall on. When I show up as town, I ask the pro towns to question Sabby, to question Trashleg, to question Vetteman, to question c03n3nj0 (the ones I'm getting more and more convinced they're scum), and I'm sure they'll find at least three mafia there.

I think my life for the town to catch three mafia at least is a fair exchange

People always say "when im town you'll see that so-and-so is mafia" and that makes no sense at all. Because we could all very well be townies, by chance. How you are percieved depends on your OWN actions, not anybody else's. So you can't be all scummy and then say "Oh you know what, I'm town so that means the people who were suspicious are scum."

No, I plan on constantly reviewing the situation as it changes, and suspicions change. If you're not scum, then someone else is, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all of those who suspected you are scum, it means that YOU were acting scummy.

p does not --> q.

No, it means my suspicion of y'all that y'all were so olympically ignoring may as well be correct. I presented a big evidence of why sabby I'm pretty sure is mafia, yet everyone (or most) decided to ignore it, and say "shut up, zexen, you're scum". I presented good evidence for you being mafia, yet it was ignored again.

You could as well be townies...but you're not

Also, it doesn't mean I was acting scummy, because I'm sure I'm not, why would I? Scummy was acting hatmoza, I tried my best to help the town.

Besides, maybe it helps clear a bit the suspicion on Dgc, which could be mafia, but I'm sure as hell is less suspicious than sabby or you




dtewi on 10 February 2010
SuperAdrianK said:
I wish someone could write a brief summary of everything...
I can't stay focus reading 5 arguements in 400 posts :/ ... I also got out of the hospital yesterday at night

but I took the Florida Comprehensive administration test... today!!!

I don't think 900 posts can be summarized briefly.

And I'm not sure if anyone would be willing to do it.

Also, why were you in the hospital?

ZOMG, 10,000 POSTS!



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you