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Words Of Wisdom said:
trangentspree said:

I see.

But by that same token shouldn't the Cop not announce someone he knows to be innocent unless it looks unavoidable that the town are about to mislynch them if he doesn't? And the Cop announced an innocent at the start of this day...

In games where the Cop does not get Doctor protection this is exactly the case.  You don't tell who's innocent unless you're about to get lynched.  If the person you investigated is on the chopping block then you try to divert suspicion without tipping off the mafia that you're a Cop. 

In games with both Cops and Doctors, the Cop wants Doctor protection as soon as possible.  Roleclaiming on Day 1 usually doesn't end well since the Cop has no investigations to verify claims, but as soon as Day 2 starts then it's fair game.

I think you misread my post.

I'm talking about when the Cop announces other people as innocent, not when the Cop role-claims in order to do this. From what you said, declaring somebody as innocent (unless that person is in a position where they are about to get mislynched by the town) only makes them a target.



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trashleg said:
zexen_lowe said:

I'm tired about people talking about my "style". Can anyone, really, know what my style is? You (as in y'all) criticize it IN EVERY DAMNED GAME. How come my style is really different if you don't even know it. And it was nen the one who brought the style thing. Guess what, nen was mafia.

How convenient you bring it up.

As for attacking sabby, what the hell do you want me to do? I already voted him, I already attacked him, if he's laying low and trying to pass unnoticed, it's not my problem. I cannot hack his account and make him post. Sure, I'd think that now he'd better be lynched, but what can I do

 

The style comment has gotten me curious, because it's not really a valid comment, it seems more to me something you come up with to force a lynch, and I don't do this, but to please our obsessive player here that thinks that if you don't FoS you're mafia

FoS: trashleg

 

i think it IS valid, i'm not as on-the-ball this game as i have been in previous games, but i can tell when there's something up and i'm not the only one. your FoS on me is quite frankly pathetic, it looks like an attempt to take attention away from yourself and FOSing me purely because i'm suspicious of the way you're posting smells like a revenge-attack. you want to draw attention to me so that other people will start thinking that there's something scummy about me.

face it zexen, we just "know" you

i'm no way trying to force a lynch - i didn't ask anybody to jump on the bandwagon and my reasons for voting have nothing to do with how anyone else is voting. so stop trying to make it look like im orchestrating something, we're not all like you.

as for sabby, he may not be here but that doesn't mean i'm obligated to think he's scummy. i'll see how that plays out before jumping to any rash decisions.

So, I'm now orchestrating something, and I'm making a bandwagon? Yeah, it's been soooooooo effective, right?

Face it, I never told people to vote for sabby just like I never told people to vote for hatmoza, I'm not forcing anyone to do anything




trangentspree said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
trangentspree said:

I see.

But by that same token shouldn't the Cop not announce someone he knows to be innocent unless it looks unavoidable that the town are about to mislynch them if he doesn't? And the Cop announced an innocent at the start of this day...

In games where the Cop does not get Doctor protection this is exactly the case.  You don't tell who's innocent unless you're about to get lynched.  If the person you investigated is on the chopping block then you try to divert suspicion without tipping off the mafia that you're a Cop. 

In games with both Cops and Doctors, the Cop wants Doctor protection as soon as possible.  Roleclaiming on Day 1 usually doesn't end well since the Cop has no investigations to verify claims, but as soon as Day 2 starts then it's fair game.

I think you misread my post.

I'm talking about when the Cop announces other people as innocent, not when the Cop role-claims in order to do this. From what you said, declaring somebody as innocent (unless that person is in a position where they are about to get mislynched by the town) only makes them a target.

It does make them a target, but the first question a Cop will get upon an attempted roleclaim will be "What were your results?"  A Cop who doesn't answer that question is liable to get lynched.  If that question doesn't get asked and answered then there's nothing stopping anyone from false roleclaiming Cop to get Doctor protection.



Words Of Wisdom said:
trangentspree said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
trangentspree said:

I see.

But by that same token shouldn't the Cop not announce someone he knows to be innocent unless it looks unavoidable that the town are about to mislynch them if he doesn't? And the Cop announced an innocent at the start of this day...

In games where the Cop does not get Doctor protection this is exactly the case.  You don't tell who's innocent unless you're about to get lynched.  If the person you investigated is on the chopping block then you try to divert suspicion without tipping off the mafia that you're a Cop. 

In games with both Cops and Doctors, the Cop wants Doctor protection as soon as possible.  Roleclaiming on Day 1 usually doesn't end well since the Cop has no investigations to verify claims, but as soon as Day 2 starts then it's fair game.

I think you misread my post.

I'm talking about when the Cop announces other people as innocent, not when the Cop role-claims in order to do this. From what you said, declaring somebody as innocent (unless that person is in a position where they are about to get mislynched by the town) only makes them a target.

It does make them a target, but the first question a Cop will get upon an attempted roleclaim will be "What were your results?"  A Cop who doesn't answer that question is liable to get lynched.  If that question doesn't get asked and answered then there's nothing stopping anyone from false roleclaiming Cop to get Doctor protection.

What you say is true... but then shouldn't the Cop save role-claiming until either he has evidence that someone is guilty or until he can see that someone he knows is innocent is about to be mislynched?

This is mind... it's a bit suspicious that you wanted the Cop to make himself known at the start of this day.



I am starting to get fed up with the lack of posts from a few people, especially ones that have been accused of acting suspicious. I am starting to think that lynching a lurker is a gameplan we should pursue.



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Vetteman94 said:
I am starting to get fed up with the lack of posts from a few people, especially ones that have been accused of acting suspicious. I am starting to think that lynching a lurker is a gameplan we should pursue.

On the same note, Sabby hasn't posted at all, and he was a prime suspect...



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Falcon095 said:
c03n3nj0 said:
Falcon095 said:
c03n3nj0 said:

I hope there aren't any godfathers.

It'll be just too over-powerful, since some mafia already have extra roles (judging by the mafia roleblocker)

Hahaha your posts are starting to make me laugh

.... eh?

Look at the post quoted and look the 2 post above it..

Bah >_>

Well, to be fair WoW didn't mentioned the extra roles they had



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c03n3nj0 said:
Vetteman94 said:
I am starting to get fed up with the lack of posts from a few people, especially ones that have been accused of acting suspicious. I am starting to think that lynching a lurker is a gameplan we should pursue.

On the same note, Sabby hasn't posted at all, and he was a prime suspect...

Yeah, but apparently that makes him less suspicious than me when I've been fairly active, while before Night 1 everyone agreed his behaviour was very weird




trangentspree said:

What you say is true... but then shouldn't the Cop save role-claiming until either he has evidence that someone is guilty or until he can see that someone he knows is innocent is about to be mislynched?

This is mind... it's a bit suspicious that you wanted the Cop to make himself known at the start of this day.

When hatmoza flipped town, I knew I would be suspected.  Since it was likely the Cop investigated me, having them step up and tell everyone that I'm innocent would save me a lot of time and trouble.

Now since I am in no danger of being mislynched, I support the Cop investigating people other than me.


Just to remind people my vote hasn't changed from:

vote: KingFate

I am also in favor of modkilling those people who are not contirbuting at this point.



trangentspree said:
What you say is true... but then shouldn't the Cop save role-claiming until either he has evidence that someone is guilty or until he can see that someone he knows is innocent is about to be mislynched?

Well, that happened. SFB wasn't really safe in the first day. WoW even said she should lynched him first.I'm sure that would/could have continued over to Day 2.

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